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Wait, what? Western intelligence came to the conclusion pretty early on that Russian separatists were to blame -- only Russia's intelligence still contradicts

• jacquesm 11y ago
  And Russia's politicians and the so-called rebels. In NL there is a ton of activity on various newspaper and news websites trying to discredit the report. Makes you wonder how much of that activity is due to organizations such as this: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/how-professional-trolls-help-russia-with-online-propaganda http://motherboard.vice.com/read/how-professional-trolls-hel...
  • r721 11y ago
    Here's an article on this particular topic trolls: http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/10/13/russias-reality-trolls-and-the-mh17-war-of-misinformation-buk-missile/ http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/10/13/russias-reality-trolls-a...
• olau 11y ago
  From the article: "Such groups can be more nimble than government bureaucracies. They also have more credibility -- something that the intelligence agencies of some Western democracies have squandered with skewed findings, serial violations of privacy and repeated evasions of oversight. For one thing, because the material Higgins and others draw on is publicly available, anyone can check their findings."
• kitd 11y ago
  I'm not referring to specific instances of good or bad intelligence, but how in general anything thrown up by the NSA/GCHQ now is as likely to be met with scorn as praise. The average man or woman doesn't trust them to be the "good guys" any more. A lone wolf on YouTube is apparently more trustworthy now.