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> Wait I thought he was on the ground bleeding out from his multiple 2-3" lacerations? There were at least three people present, the one behind them was there
by Natsu 11y ago
> Wait I thought he was on the ground bleeding out from his multiple 2-3" lacerations?
There were at least three people present, the one behind them was there all along, the two in the ATV came later. The person with the lacerations and injured palms was behind the car when, according to Tesla, they accelerated into him. The two people in the ATV were in front of the car. It becomes more difficult to claim the injuries inflicted were accidental when they manage two separate 'accidents' in a small amount of time, but we'll have to see the accident reconstruction to see whose claims hold up.
> Again I don't want to apologize for the illegal and dangerous actions of the RGJ employees here but (1) this isn't the whole story and (2) I think it's absolutely ridiculous that Tesla has their secur-- err "safety" staff heading people off at the pass in ATV's and risking their lives over some illegal photos. It's also possible that my skepticism is misplaced and Tesla is not exaggerating here and RGJ employees engaged in exactly the behavior described.
Wanting to read both accounts is reasonable and fair. RGJ has their own account which you can read here:
http://www.rgj.com/story/news/2015/10/09/rgj-photographer-arrested-after-altercation-withtesla-security-guards/73693850/ http://www.rgj.com/story/news/2015/10/09/rgj-photographer-ar...
While you're right that security should be trained not to do dangerous things like this over simple trespass for this exact reason, the big problem here is that both accounts of the story say that the RGJ journalists hit Tesla employees with a car.
That's lethal force.
Unless they can show something like being in reasonable fear for their lives (or grievous bodily injury), the driver is in big trouble. Nobody has alleged that the Tesla guards were trying to kill or maim the journalists. There's a mention that a rock was used on a window and a seat belt was cut, but neither side alleges any injury to the journalists or a threat thereof.
So it is sort of like when you have someone 'resisting arrest' and only one side is injured. But here, only the cops are injured. I would normally give the injured side the benefit of any doubt when only one side shows injury, but that's only when there's doubt and they can show evidence to overcome that burden. The Tesla guards were injured and they had lethal force used against them.
While we should wait to see what new facts come to light, the uncontested parts of the two stories paint spell serious legal trouble for the driver. Neither account disputes that the RGJ driver used lethal force against and caused injury to Tesla security guards in an altercation over claims of trespass. That's worrisome.