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If you want to talk about people being shot, instead of just cases where civilians walk into a crowded place just to kill as many people as possible, then I thi

by agarden 11y ago

If you want to talk about people being shot, instead of just cases where civilians walk into a crowded place just to kill as many people as possible, then I think you need to take Syria, Iraq, Somalia, Palestine, and more into account. And I doubt, once you do that, that the US will still have the most mass shootings or carnage.

DanBC 11y ago
We need to define what a mass shooting is. Most people use "4 people or more shot". A mass killing is "4 people or more killed". (A serial killing has cool down time between death). By these definitions the US has more mass killings than those other countries. >The U.S. represents less than 5% of the 7.3 billion global population but accounted for 31% of global mass shooters during the period from 1966 to 2012, more than any other country, Mr. Lankford said, adding that he defines a mass shooter as one who killed at least four victims. The 90 killers who carried out mass shootings in the U.S. amounted to five times as many as the next highest country, the Philippines, according to his research. Adjust it to per capita, and the US still leads the world in mass killings and mass shootings. The US is worse than the shitholes you list.
- agarden 11y ago
  I am skeptical. The WSJ article[0] covering Lankford's claims has a graphic that shows none of those countries with even two mass shootings since 2000, including the Philippines. The Mother Jones[1] article says that only four countries broke double digits, and again, none of the countries I listed made the list. Or Mexico, which is widely reported to be rife with gang violence, including mass murders. It appears that Lankford's paper[2] has not yet been published. When it is, and if it is available for free, we can look at the details of his claims. [0] http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-leads-world-in-mass-shootings-1443905359 http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-leads-world-in-mass-shooting... [1] http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/08/united-states-world-mass-shooters http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/08/united-states-wo... [2] http://adamlankford.com/research.htm http://adamlankford.com/research.htm

by agarden 11y ago

DanBC 11y ago

We need to define what a mass shooting is. Most people use "4 people or more shot". A mass killing is "4 people or more killed". (A serial killing has cool down time between death). By these definitions the US has more mass killings than those other countries. >The U.S. represents less than 5% of the 7.3 billion global population but accounted for 31% of global mass shooters during the period from 1966 to 2012, more than any other country, Mr. Lankford said, adding that he defines a mass shooter as one who killed at least four victims. The 90 killers who carried out mass shootings in the U.S. amounted to five times as many as the next highest country, the Philippines, according to his research. Adjust it to per capita, and the US still leads the world in mass killings and mass shootings. The US is worse than the shitholes you list.

agarden 11y ago
I am skeptical. The WSJ article[0] covering Lankford's claims has a graphic that shows none of those countries with even two mass shootings since 2000, including the Philippines. The Mother Jones[1] article says that only four countries broke double digits, and again, none of the countries I listed made the list. Or Mexico, which is widely reported to be rife with gang violence, including mass murders. It appears that Lankford's paper[2] has not yet been published. When it is, and if it is available for free, we can look at the details of his claims. [0] http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-leads-world-in-mass-shootings-1443905359 http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-leads-world-in-mass-shooting... [1] http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/08/united-states-world-mass-shooters http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/08/united-states-wo... [2] http://adamlankford.com/research.htm http://adamlankford.com/research.htm