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It was definitely a straw man. I'm a dude and I don't live in fear of a shooter, and I don't get the impression many women do either. My point is: We're quick

It was definitely a straw man. I'm a dude and I don't live in fear of a shooter, and I don't get the impression many women do either. My point is: We're quick to claim victory as society grows more tolerant and race/sex matter less, but I think we claim it too soon. That young white men feel entitled to shoot people when their lives don't work out (and apparently others don't) is as real an imbalance as wage gaps, etc.

minority-one 11y ago
> That young white men feel entitled to shoot people when their lives don't work out (and apparently others don't) If I said that Jews feel entitled to slander people and call them racist when their arguments about the existence of gas chambers don't work out, I would be ding ding ding'ed by dang. While both assertions are crassly correct, we must ask ourselves (dropit_sphere, pay attention now): - Please tone down your claims. Are you sure it is a characteristic inherent of young white men that they feel like shooting people when their lives don't work out? Or perhaps do you think it could be the characteristic not of such a large group with so many counter-examples to your thesis, but of a much narrower group, such as, for instance, non-home-schooled pubescent students under prescription drugs and probably victims of bullying, who aren't emotionally connected enough with their parents in order to talk through their feelings? When you generalize it to "young white men" you indict a whole category of people when really you should be chastising only the exceptional, criminal outliers. - Please substantiate your claims more. How did you come to the conclusion that young white men feel entitled to shoot people when their lives don't work out, while others apparently do not? Is there a study corroborating this? Can we make this claim from the sample size we have? Have there been other cases where people mistakenly blamed a whole group for the actions of the outliers? (Hint: Jews). If so, what can we learn from it? dang: please moderate this thread more closely in order to curtail the behavior exemplified by dropit_sphere's post. Thank you.
- devindotcom 11y ago
  Well, that escalated quickly!

minority-one 11y ago

> That young white men feel entitled to shoot people when their lives don't work out (and apparently others don't) If I said that Jews feel entitled to slander people and call them racist when their arguments about the existence of gas chambers don't work out, I would be ding ding ding'ed by dang. While both assertions are crassly correct, we must ask ourselves (dropit_sphere, pay attention now): - Please tone down your claims. Are you sure it is a characteristic inherent of young white men that they feel like shooting people when their lives don't work out? Or perhaps do you think it could be the characteristic not of such a large group with so many counter-examples to your thesis, but of a much narrower group, such as, for instance, non-home-schooled pubescent students under prescription drugs and probably victims of bullying, who aren't emotionally connected enough with their parents in order to talk through their feelings? When you generalize it to "young white men" you indict a whole category of people when really you should be chastising only the exceptional, criminal outliers. - Please substantiate your claims more. How did you come to the conclusion that young white men feel entitled to shoot people when their lives don't work out, while others apparently do not? Is there a study corroborating this? Can we make this claim from the sample size we have? Have there been other cases where people mistakenly blamed a whole group for the actions of the outliers? (Hint: Jews). If so, what can we learn from it? dang: please moderate this thread more closely in order to curtail the behavior exemplified by dropit_sphere's post. Thank you.

devindotcom 11y ago
Well, that escalated quickly!