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He doesnt have much in common with the people mentioned in this article, except Breivik maybe, though i might be completely wrong since i havent read up on the

He doesnt have much in common with the people mentioned in this article, except Breivik maybe, though i might be completely wrong since i havent read up on the Unabomber.

roflc0ptic 11y ago
Yeah, as I understand it the Unabomber was politically motivated terrorism. He also had the distinction of being a pretty smart guy, which is unusual for the demographic that gets into mass murder.
- justinator 11y ago
  Ted Bundy [0] Andrew Cunanan [1] Jeffrey Dahmer - I wouldn't say it's "unusual" [2] [0] http://maamodt.asp.radford.edu/Psyc%20405/serial%20killers/Bundy,%20Ted%20-%202005.pdf http://maamodt.asp.radford.edu/Psyc%20405/serial%20killers/B... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Cunanan#Early_life https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Cunanan#Early_life [2] http://www.examiner.com/article/22-serial-killers-with-high-iqs http://www.examiner.com/article/22-serial-killers-with-high-...
  - andreasvc 11y ago
    You listed two serial killers with a high IQ; however, the merits of IQ can be debated, but more importantly Kaczynsky stands out because he holds a PhD and was a Berkeley professor.
- dragonwriter 11y ago
  > He also had the distinction of being a pretty smart guy, which is unusual for the demographic that gets into mass murder. I actually thought it was fairly common for mass killers (other than those whose mass killing is confined to a single mass casualty attack / killing spree), if for no other reason than not being smart makes it more likely that you get caught before your killing reaches the level of "mass".
at-fates-hands 11y ago
He's a total outlier since he had two very well documented issues that occurred in his life that affected him profoundly - and I can't blame him for feeling the way he did after either. The first was at 9 months after bieng born, he got a bad case of the hives and was isolated from his family, with no visitors. This time is the most important time for newborns to bond with their parents and he was deprived of this. His treatments lasted over 8 months which affected him profoundly: "His mother wrote in March 1943, "Baby home from hospital and is healthy but quite unresponsive after his experience" The other was a psychology experiment he participated in while at Harvard which people believe fueled his anti-science views: During Kaczynski’s sophomore year at Harvard, in 1959, he was recruited for a psychological experiment that, unbeknownst to him, would last three years. The experiment involved psychological torment and humiliation, a story I include in my book Mind Wars: Brain Research and the Military in the 21st Century. The Harvard study aimed at psychic deconstruction by humiliating undergraduates and thereby causing them to experience severe stress source: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/impromptu-man/201205/harvards-experiment-the-unabomber-class-62 https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/impromptu-man/201205/ha... The Atlantic had a good story on the experiment as well: http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2000/06/harvard-and-the-making-of-the-unabomber/378239/ http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2000/06/harvard-...
- anigbrowl 11y ago
  Both those articles were frustrating - the PT one is just promoting a book and the Atlantic one provides only one example. A little more information (based on the latter article's author's book) is available here: http://humaneeducation.org/blog/2010/07/19/imagine-a-different-experiment-ted-kaczynski-and-the-murray-experiment-at-harvard/ http://humaneeducation.org/blog/2010/07/19/imagine-a-differe... Notwithstanding his murderous behavior, Kaczynski's manifesto is absolutely worth reading. Though uneven, it contains some profound insights, many of which will resonate with anyone interested in social theory.

He doesnt have much in common with the people mentioned in this article, except Breivik maybe, though i might be completely wrong since i havent read up on the Unabomber.

roflc0ptic 11y ago

Yeah, as I understand it the Unabomber was politically motivated terrorism. He also had the distinction of being a pretty smart guy, which is unusual for the demographic that gets into mass murder.

justinator 11y ago
Ted Bundy [0] Andrew Cunanan [1] Jeffrey Dahmer - I wouldn't say it's "unusual" [2] [0] http://maamodt.asp.radford.edu/Psyc%20405/serial%20killers/Bundy,%20Ted%20-%202005.pdf http://maamodt.asp.radford.edu/Psyc%20405/serial%20killers/B... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Cunanan#Early_life https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Cunanan#Early_life [2] http://www.examiner.com/article/22-serial-killers-with-high-iqs http://www.examiner.com/article/22-serial-killers-with-high-...
- andreasvc 11y ago
  You listed two serial killers with a high IQ; however, the merits of IQ can be debated, but more importantly Kaczynsky stands out because he holds a PhD and was a Berkeley professor.
dragonwriter 11y ago
> He also had the distinction of being a pretty smart guy, which is unusual for the demographic that gets into mass murder. I actually thought it was fairly common for mass killers (other than those whose mass killing is confined to a single mass casualty attack / killing spree), if for no other reason than not being smart makes it more likely that you get caught before your killing reaches the level of "mass".

at-fates-hands 11y ago

He's a total outlier since he had two very well documented issues that occurred in his life that affected him profoundly - and I can't blame him for feeling the way he did after either. The first was at 9 months after bieng born, he got a bad case of the hives and was isolated from his family, with no visitors. This time is the most important time for newborns to bond with their parents and he was deprived of this. His treatments lasted over 8 months which affected him profoundly: "His mother wrote in March 1943, "Baby home from hospital and is healthy but quite unresponsive after his experience" The other was a psychology experiment he participated in while at Harvard which people believe fueled his anti-science views: During Kaczynski’s sophomore year at Harvard, in 1959, he was recruited for a psychological experiment that, unbeknownst to him, would last three years. The experiment involved psychological torment and humiliation, a story I include in my book Mind Wars: Brain Research and the Military in the 21st Century. The Harvard study aimed at psychic deconstruction by humiliating undergraduates and thereby causing them to experience severe stress source: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/impromptu-man/201205/harvards-experiment-the-unabomber-class-62 https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/impromptu-man/201205/ha... The Atlantic had a good story on the experiment as well: http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2000/06/harvard-and-the-making-of-the-unabomber/378239/ http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2000/06/harvard-...

anigbrowl 11y ago
Both those articles were frustrating - the PT one is just promoting a book and the Atlantic one provides only one example. A little more information (based on the latter article's author's book) is available here: http://humaneeducation.org/blog/2010/07/19/imagine-a-different-experiment-ted-kaczynski-and-the-murray-experiment-at-harvard/ http://humaneeducation.org/blog/2010/07/19/imagine-a-differe... Notwithstanding his murderous behavior, Kaczynski's manifesto is absolutely worth reading. Though uneven, it contains some profound insights, many of which will resonate with anyone interested in social theory.