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Am i understanding this right: i can build a building in half the price if i use BIM ? Because if that's true, who cares about old companies - start a new comp

by petra 11y ago

Am i understanding this right: i can build a building in half the price if i use BIM ? Because if that's true, who cares about old companies - start a new company ,raise money(there's plenty for good opportunities ), train some people, and start offering everybody 30%-40% discount on their building. You'd kill the market and make ton of money , right ?

troisx 11y ago
Then try to get a bid approved as a newcomer. With all of the language in the bids, you'll never get a contract unless you've done a lot of these over cost, underperforming jobs and greased enough hands along the way. If you ever want to get a good dose of anger, read some government requests for bids. They're totally geared towards existing large companies.
- jessaustin 11y ago
  I thought GP was speaking about the construction industry in general, not just government work?
- jmcmahon443 11y ago
  This is very true. Which is why I think this sort of BIM automation needs to spawn from a large AEC company, or from a startup partnered with a large company. We are basically talking about applying AI cost functions to the AEC industry (optimize design, time, cost).
jmcmahon443 11y ago
As always, it depends. If you're building a cookie-cutter high rise residential building, it's kind of well known and easy. The price has already been reduced to about where it is going to be. Typical floors mean typical documentation. However, as soon as you start talking about complex building structures and services, BIM easily pays itself off. Think automated finite element analysis. The key is to plan far ahead of time, and design far ahead of time. There is no automation today, it is all done by hand. But I believe someday, BIM automation will dominant the market. A few architects out there use procedurally generated shapes for architecture. A few engineers out there use AutoCAD plugins to streamline engineering services. BIM automation is already on the way...

by petra 11y ago

troisx 11y ago

Then try to get a bid approved as a newcomer. With all of the language in the bids, you'll never get a contract unless you've done a lot of these over cost, underperforming jobs and greased enough hands along the way. If you ever want to get a good dose of anger, read some government requests for bids. They're totally geared towards existing large companies.

jessaustin 11y ago
I thought GP was speaking about the construction industry in general, not just government work?
jmcmahon443 11y ago
This is very true. Which is why I think this sort of BIM automation needs to spawn from a large AEC company, or from a startup partnered with a large company. We are basically talking about applying AI cost functions to the AEC industry (optimize design, time, cost).

jmcmahon443 11y ago

As always, it depends. If you're building a cookie-cutter high rise residential building, it's kind of well known and easy. The price has already been reduced to about where it is going to be. Typical floors mean typical documentation. However, as soon as you start talking about complex building structures and services, BIM easily pays itself off. Think automated finite element analysis. The key is to plan far ahead of time, and design far ahead of time. There is no automation today, it is all done by hand. But I believe someday, BIM automation will dominant the market. A few architects out there use procedurally generated shapes for architecture. A few engineers out there use AutoCAD plugins to streamline engineering services. BIM automation is already on the way...