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Twitter is still a "startup"?

by efuquen 11y ago

cwbrandsma 11y ago
Startup is just a code word for "tech company" anymore.
- rconti 11y ago
  "Anymore" is just a word used to mean "now" anymore. (I kid, but seriously, I've searched for analysis on the use of the word 'anymore' in the positive (eg, as something other than part of a 'not...anymore' clause) and haven't been able to find anything. Any links would be appreciated, I am legitimately curious as to when and how this became a thing).
  - krstck 11y ago
    Here you go: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_anymore https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_anymore
  - aaroninsf 11y ago
    Ranks right up there with 'infer' for 'imply' in usage changes which I will go to my grave hearing foremost as a brazen signal of incomplete education. Kids: do not use either if you care about the judgment of your elders. Bonus protip: until you vest, you should care.
    - klipt 11y ago
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_kooRTnAbk#t=0m36s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_kooRTnAbk#t=0m36s
    - kenko 11y ago
      "usage changes" which have been around since long before you were born. Are there other long-established regionalisms/dialects you have a bug up your butt about? It might be pragmatic to care about the judgment of one's ignorant elders, when the ignorant have power over you, but in no other sense should one care about such opinions.
      - biot 11y ago
        The first person to write "should of" and "could of" instead of "should've" and "could've" was certainly incorrect, because they misheard someone's speech and wrote it out phonetically in a way that no one had ever done before. At what point does the incorrect usage become so popular that we ignorant fools start teaching "should of" and "could of" as correct English to our kids?
  - wylee 11y ago
    I have family in the southeastern US who use "anymore" like the person you're responding to did (and they have for decades). I don't think it simply means "now". There's a slightly different connotation that seems somewhat negative. Kind of like: "It used to be like this, but now it's like this... and I'm not sure I approve".
    - rconti 11y ago
      That's an astute observation. It always strikes me as jarring when the speaker leaves off the "not" in the clause.... but on the rare occasions it happens, it's always about a chance in society/convention which is clearly not considered a positive.
- astrodust 11y ago
  Reminds me of "indie" rock with big name bands being signed to big labels.
- wwwwwwwwww 11y ago
  Correction, startup is a code word for "tech company that doesn't make enough money to justify its valuation" Or if you're a VC, it's "tech company whose current valuation is based on future value"
ChuckMcM 11y ago
Any company that has yet to operate on a consistent business model is still a start up :-). But in twitter's case that is stretching it. Both ad funded and public I'd say they are a 'small cap company' rather than a startup. That said, it's clear they are struggling to stay alive and that is a trait of many start ups.

Twitter is still a "startup"?

by efuquen 11y ago

Twitter is still a "startup"?

cwbrandsma 11y ago

Startup is just a code word for "tech company" anymore.

rconti 11y ago
"Anymore" is just a word used to mean "now" anymore. (I kid, but seriously, I've searched for analysis on the use of the word 'anymore' in the positive (eg, as something other than part of a 'not...anymore' clause) and haven't been able to find anything. Any links would be appreciated, I am legitimately curious as to when and how this became a thing).
- krstck 11y ago
  Here you go: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_anymore https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_anymore
- aaroninsf 11y ago
  Ranks right up there with 'infer' for 'imply' in usage changes which I will go to my grave hearing foremost as a brazen signal of incomplete education. Kids: do not use either if you care about the judgment of your elders. Bonus protip: until you vest, you should care.
  - klipt 11y ago
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_kooRTnAbk#t=0m36s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_kooRTnAbk#t=0m36s
  - kenko 11y ago
    "usage changes" which have been around since long before you were born. Are there other long-established regionalisms/dialects you have a bug up your butt about? It might be pragmatic to care about the judgment of one's ignorant elders, when the ignorant have power over you, but in no other sense should one care about such opinions.
    - biot 11y ago
      The first person to write "should of" and "could of" instead of "should've" and "could've" was certainly incorrect, because they misheard someone's speech and wrote it out phonetically in a way that no one had ever done before. At what point does the incorrect usage become so popular that we ignorant fools start teaching "should of" and "could of" as correct English to our kids?
- wylee 11y ago
  I have family in the southeastern US who use "anymore" like the person you're responding to did (and they have for decades). I don't think it simply means "now". There's a slightly different connotation that seems somewhat negative. Kind of like: "It used to be like this, but now it's like this... and I'm not sure I approve".
  - rconti 11y ago
    That's an astute observation. It always strikes me as jarring when the speaker leaves off the "not" in the clause.... but on the rare occasions it happens, it's always about a chance in society/convention which is clearly not considered a positive.
astrodust 11y ago
Reminds me of "indie" rock with big name bands being signed to big labels.
wwwwwwwwww 11y ago
Correction, startup is a code word for "tech company that doesn't make enough money to justify its valuation" Or if you're a VC, it's "tech company whose current valuation is based on future value"

ChuckMcM 11y ago

Any company that has yet to operate on a consistent business model is still a start up :-). But in twitter's case that is stretching it. Both ad funded and public I'd say they are a 'small cap company' rather than a startup. That said, it's clear they are struggling to stay alive and that is a trait of many start ups.