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Now we have to deal with battery degradation. AAs can be replaced; Sealed-in Lithium Ion batteries degrade over time. A very Apple move, to change to hardware
by xd1936 11y ago
Now we have to deal with battery degradation. AAs can be replaced; Sealed-in Lithium Ion batteries degrade over time.
A very Apple move, to change to hardware with more planned obsolescence.
- joosters 11y agoThe figure I've seen quoted for many Li batteries is 1000 recharges at good capacity. For devices needing a recharge every few weeks, the batteries should last a decade or more.
- togusa 11y agoThey have a shelf life too. Lose 10-20% of capacity a year just sitting there.
- arbitrage 11y agoWhat's the expected lifetime of a mouse, and what's the expected useable lifetime of a li-ion battery? Yes, it will degrade over time, but you'll continue to get use out of it. I'd peg both at about 4-5 years at this point. It's not apple that's implementing planned obsolescence. It's the entire industry, and it's defacto obsolescence. Or would you still expect to be using your microsoft ball mouse from 1999 today?
- panglott 11y agoI think I have a trackball upstairs in a box from circa 2000 that I suspect still works fine, with an ADB-USB converter. The design goals of these two devices are different. Of course, it's perfectly fine for different devices to have different design goals. In fact, they should!
- togusa 11y agoSeriously a Logitech wireless mouse costs £8 here in the UK at the moment. It takes one AA battery a year for me and lasts about 3-4 years before the buttons stop working. So not the entire industry. As a side note I have a working Microsoft optical mouse from 1999 that was used for 7 years and is still fine.
- adrianN 11y agoI still use my Logitech MX518 from ~2005. Works fine. The reviews on Amazon tell of many other people who used this mouse for a long time.
- jarvic 11y agoIt almost killed me when mine broke earlier this year and I found out they don't make them anymore. Best mouse I've ever used, and its corpse still has a place of honor at the top of the pile of old hardware in my closet.
- Splines 11y agoI have an Microsoft Intellimouse from 2001 that I'm still using as my daily mouse at work. It works flawlessly, and has all the features I want and nothing more. Mouse wheel with click and detents, back/forward buttons and left/right buttons. I have a fancier mouse at home with a similar feature set and even though it cost 4x as much, sometimes my work mouse feels better.
- rimantas 11y agoYeah, PO is the reason why iOS 9 still supports iPhone 4s. The new moust is very appealing to me exactly because I won't have to deal with batteries anymore.
- alsetmusic 11y agoMy last two Logitech mice have had Li Ion batteries. This isn't new. Also, it fits with Apple's stance on the environment. A lot of people probably aren't using rechargeable batteries in their accessories and this will slow the rate of consumption.
- wlesieutre 11y agoBest Logitech mouse is a the G700s. Wireless/wired hybrid with a NiMH low-self-discharge AA battery included. When it runs low, you either plug the mouse in to charge from USB (also switches data over to the slightly more reliable wired connection), or you swap in a fresh battery and toss the dead one in a separate charger. If your AA battery has too much permanent wear, get a new one. No warranty voiding necessary.