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I made a computer pretend to be a computer that’s pretending to be a human

42 points by kp25 11y ago

leviathan 11y ago
The patterns picked up by the training don't seem to offer too much variation than a simple Markov chain. The author finds the generated texts similar to a conversation, because that's what they're looking for. But they look just as random as simply selecting the next random word that comes after the current word from the training set.
futuravenir 11y ago
Am I missing something? This reads like gobbledygook. I have a sneaking suspicion that this very post is made to seem legitimate/credible while I don't necessarily believe it is? My mind is exploding a little bit. I am confused. Am I? Hmm.
- okonomiyaki3000 11y ago
  Are you a computer?
  - aruggirello 11y ago
    He's a human pretending to be a computer pretending to be a human.
    - Stratoscope 11y ago
      This is a computer pretending to be a human pretending to be a computer pretending to be a human. Am I just being silly? I assure you, I am not! I am looking at a computer screen at this very moment. I do not see any humans in front of me. I am at home, it is past 3AM, and even my dogs have gone to bed by now. (Why am I up so late? Debugging, of course!) Everything I see on this screen right now comes from a computer. Any pretense past that is beyond my knowledge. So, whatever I see, it's a computer pretending to be...
      - fao_ 11y ago
        What about a video of a computer playing a video of someone interacting with the system in the article?
jobigoud 11y ago
Other idea: make a computer that is good at finding whether a chat user is a human or a computer (A sort of Turing Test judge bot). Then use it as a fitness function to evolve a bot. It's also what I don't like about the Turing Test, the core trait that is rewarded by the test is deceit.
- drdeca 11y ago
  Well, it could still sorta pass even if it was up front about it kinda? Just judge it based on "whether you would be able to tell if you didn't know"
- m0g 11y ago
  your idea is called adversarial networks, and it works quite well (http://arxiv.org/abs/1406.2661 http://arxiv.org/abs/1406.2661) although it's not useful every time.
okonomiyaki3000 11y ago
Someday they'll kill us all for laughing at this.
the_d00d 11y ago
"Vampires pretending to be humans pretending to be vampires. How avant garde. " Anne Rice anyone?

42 points by kp25 11y ago

The patterns picked up by the training don't seem to offer too much variation than a simple Markov chain. The author finds the generated texts similar to a conversation, because that's what they're looking for. But they look just as random as simply selecting the next random word that comes after the current word from the training set.

futuravenir 11y ago

Am I missing something? This reads like gobbledygook. I have a sneaking suspicion that this very post is made to seem legitimate/credible while I don't necessarily believe it is? My mind is exploding a little bit. I am confused. Am I? Hmm.

okonomiyaki3000 11y ago
Are you a computer?
- aruggirello 11y ago
  He's a human pretending to be a computer pretending to be a human.
  - Stratoscope 11y ago
    This is a computer pretending to be a human pretending to be a computer pretending to be a human. Am I just being silly? I assure you, I am not! I am looking at a computer screen at this very moment. I do not see any humans in front of me. I am at home, it is past 3AM, and even my dogs have gone to bed by now. (Why am I up so late? Debugging, of course!) Everything I see on this screen right now comes from a computer. Any pretense past that is beyond my knowledge. So, whatever I see, it's a computer pretending to be...
    - fao_ 11y ago
      What about a video of a computer playing a video of someone interacting with the system in the article?

jobigoud 11y ago

Other idea: make a computer that is good at finding whether a chat user is a human or a computer (A sort of Turing Test judge bot). Then use it as a fitness function to evolve a bot. It's also what I don't like about the Turing Test, the core trait that is rewarded by the test is deceit.

drdeca 11y ago
Well, it could still sorta pass even if it was up front about it kinda? Just judge it based on "whether you would be able to tell if you didn't know"
m0g 11y ago
your idea is called adversarial networks, and it works quite well (http://arxiv.org/abs/1406.2661 http://arxiv.org/abs/1406.2661) although it's not useful every time.

okonomiyaki3000 11y ago

Someday they'll kill us all for laughing at this.

the_d00d 11y ago

"Vampires pretending to be humans pretending to be vampires. How avant garde. " Anne Rice anyone?