exactly. it's nice that AR makes it easy to go down a layer, but then you're no longer abstracting away the database. edit: to be fair, I was less than precis

exactly. it's nice that AR makes it easy to go down a layer, but then you're no longer abstracting away the database. edit: to be fair, I was less than precise in my earlier post when I said that ActiveRecord wasn't totally transparent. I was specifically referring to AR as an abstraction that can be used identically across various different databases.