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They shouldn't be on roads either. What bikes have that electric skateboards don't is stability -- it's extremely rare for a cyclist doing 20mph to suddenly fa

by hugh4 11y ago

They shouldn't be on roads either. What bikes have that electric skateboards don't is stability -- it's extremely rare for a cyclist doing 20mph to suddenly fall off entirely, but falling off a skateboard is pretty easy.

tajen 11y ago
Cars should be forbidden, at least in cities. As an asthmatic person, as an endangered pedestrian, as a citizen who cares about sustainable development, as an urbanist who cares about public space and population density, cars may solve problems like how to carry 3 children to school or how to show off about professional success, but I hope we'll limit its usage. My friends in Sydney who have a family, have no car.
- Wingman4l7 11y ago
  Cities self-limit car ownership. There isn't enough parking and if alternative means of transport (Uber, Car2Go, buses) are dense enough, people can get away without owning them.
  - SilasX 11y ago
    Partly true, but a lot of cities inconvenience the general public to mask the general self-limiting phenomenon, for example by sacrificing space for parking lanes.
- dogma1138 11y ago
  > "endangered pedestrian" Sigh that's level 10000 there. I've been by far hit/forcibly stopped/run out of my path by bikes (and other non-motored or low powered vehicles) than by cars. Bike riders seem that they think that they own anything that the drive on they never give way on a crosswalk when it crosses a bike lane, when they drive on the sidewalk they are a menace (and often are quite rude if you make them stop or slow down), and they quite often do what ever they want in intersections especially during red signals because no one ever stops them. Oh it's a red signal no cars are coming lets take a left here not caring that it's a green light for pedestrians we'll just hand signal and spam the bell then be annoyed when they actually don't let us pass and yell that they are engendering us because cars are now coming. I for one would not mind that people who want to commute on bikes will actually be forced to get a proper license and that police will start actively enforcing and ticketing them (as well as having a license plate that will allow people to call in and complain).
  - federico3 11y ago
    > I've been by far hit/forcibly stopped/run out of my path by bikes (and other non-motored or low powered vehicles) than by cars. Would you rather be hit by 3 bikes or by one car?
    - dogma1138 11y ago
      Would you rather be hit by a baseball ball pitched by a professional player or by a bullet? I don't have to get hit by either, as an "endangered pedestrian" I have the priority on the sidewalk, and while crossing the street which bike riders constantly ignore, stay in the bike lane, respect give way signs, red signal means no even if you are a bike and you can squish in, the cross walk isn't there for you to make an easy u-turn and the sidewalk isn't there for you for as long as you are seated in the bike.
      - newjersey 11y ago
        This is absolutely correct. Entirely too many people pose these false dichotomy questions. If you have wheels, you belong on the streets. Bicycles and motorcycles must assert themselves on the road. Never allow a car or a truck to share a lane with you. Never let another bike share a lane with you either. Never ride a bike on the shoulder. Never sneak through a red light (well use common sense on this one). The problem in the US is our car and truck drivers (yours sincerely included)/don't know how to drive properly either. Nobody told us not to share a lane. New Jersey drivers seem to be the worst. We do the rolling stop. We stop and sometimes park in the way of pedestrian crossing. We think we have a right to turn right even with a red light and that right supersedes the right of pedestrian trying to cross the street when they have the walk sign! I didn't even think about the last one until a car had the audacity to honk at me after speeding into a right turn on their red light screeching to a halt as I jumped for safety. As a pedestrian, I had the walk light! People like those should not be driving. Is there an easy number to call and report reckless driving? What is the solution here? Why should they take my word without evidence? I mean some tailgating idiot could easily call and falsely report someone of brake checking. Driverless cars can't come fast enough ... I knowninfor one will vote to eliminate human drivers -- all of them -- from the roads. slow-moving wheelchairs excepted

by hugh4 11y ago

tajen 11y ago

Cars should be forbidden, at least in cities. As an asthmatic person, as an endangered pedestrian, as a citizen who cares about sustainable development, as an urbanist who cares about public space and population density, cars may solve problems like how to carry 3 children to school or how to show off about professional success, but I hope we'll limit its usage. My friends in Sydney who have a family, have no car.

Wingman4l7 11y ago
Cities self-limit car ownership. There isn't enough parking and if alternative means of transport (Uber, Car2Go, buses) are dense enough, people can get away without owning them.
- SilasX 11y ago
  Partly true, but a lot of cities inconvenience the general public to mask the general self-limiting phenomenon, for example by sacrificing space for parking lanes.
dogma1138 11y ago
> "endangered pedestrian" Sigh that's level 10000 there. I've been by far hit/forcibly stopped/run out of my path by bikes (and other non-motored or low powered vehicles) than by cars. Bike riders seem that they think that they own anything that the drive on they never give way on a crosswalk when it crosses a bike lane, when they drive on the sidewalk they are a menace (and often are quite rude if you make them stop or slow down), and they quite often do what ever they want in intersections especially during red signals because no one ever stops them. Oh it's a red signal no cars are coming lets take a left here not caring that it's a green light for pedestrians we'll just hand signal and spam the bell then be annoyed when they actually don't let us pass and yell that they are engendering us because cars are now coming. I for one would not mind that people who want to commute on bikes will actually be forced to get a proper license and that police will start actively enforcing and ticketing them (as well as having a license plate that will allow people to call in and complain).
- federico3 11y ago
  > I've been by far hit/forcibly stopped/run out of my path by bikes (and other non-motored or low powered vehicles) than by cars. Would you rather be hit by 3 bikes or by one car?
  - dogma1138 11y ago
    Would you rather be hit by a baseball ball pitched by a professional player or by a bullet? I don't have to get hit by either, as an "endangered pedestrian" I have the priority on the sidewalk, and while crossing the street which bike riders constantly ignore, stay in the bike lane, respect give way signs, red signal means no even if you are a bike and you can squish in, the cross walk isn't there for you to make an easy u-turn and the sidewalk isn't there for you for as long as you are seated in the bike.
    - newjersey 11y ago
      This is absolutely correct. Entirely too many people pose these false dichotomy questions. If you have wheels, you belong on the streets. Bicycles and motorcycles must assert themselves on the road. Never allow a car or a truck to share a lane with you. Never let another bike share a lane with you either. Never ride a bike on the shoulder. Never sneak through a red light (well use common sense on this one). The problem in the US is our car and truck drivers (yours sincerely included)/don't know how to drive properly either. Nobody told us not to share a lane. New Jersey drivers seem to be the worst. We do the rolling stop. We stop and sometimes park in the way of pedestrian crossing. We think we have a right to turn right even with a red light and that right supersedes the right of pedestrian trying to cross the street when they have the walk sign! I didn't even think about the last one until a car had the audacity to honk at me after speeding into a right turn on their red light screeching to a halt as I jumped for safety. As a pedestrian, I had the walk light! People like those should not be driving. Is there an easy number to call and report reckless driving? What is the solution here? Why should they take my word without evidence? I mean some tailgating idiot could easily call and falsely report someone of brake checking. Driverless cars can't come fast enough ... I knowninfor one will vote to eliminate human drivers -- all of them -- from the roads. slow-moving wheelchairs excepted