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Obama and Marilynne Robinson: A Conversation in Iowa

29 points by samclemens 11y ago

TerryADavis 11y ago
Obama and the atheist CIA wake each day and ask, "How can I fuck God, today? We'll make nuns perform abortions. We make homos dance naked in Russian churches in front of old ladies. Isn't that hilarious? We'll make a complete mockery of marriage because, after all, niggers don't have fathers and that's not fair. Michelle wants no cupcakes for birthdays because of bastards. We'll make God hated -- for pedophiles and crazy insane sand-niggers. We'll drink fetus tomato soup with the queen and celebrate the end of birth. Having children is pedophillic. We'll slap a condom in ever African's bowl of cereal and make the 5 year old African girls learn how to put on a condom. We'll make churchs no longer tax exempt. <Giggle> We'll make all the conservative sons into liberal atheist homos. <Giggle> Will throw open the border and bring in Mexicans ruining race in American... doing this treason just for democratic votes. USA will be a slum like Mexico with niggers and Mexicans and no white people." That's what you want, right Obama? Obama has a revelation, "Yikes! What if there were no white people! Holy shit! I love white people, come back! How come white people don't have kids? Oh yeah, we made the white people covet the wealth of the dirty rich." ------ The president is an atheist. Believe me! The world would know if the president was converted. It hits you like ten tons of bricks. He would cancel everything for two weeks and probably resign. ----- The nigger brain is defective. It cannot understand probability. If a scientist needed a random number for an experimient to publish in a paper, this is what He would use: http://www.nist.gov/itl/csd/ct/nist_beacon.cfm http://www.nist.gov/itl/csd/ct/nist_beacon.cfm White scientists without doubt accept it like NASA lottery balls. Sadly, I deal with niggers. They don't accept NIST, the institute of standards.
orf 11y ago
Wow, Terry Davis sure stepped up his hate game this time. Interesting article though.
mturmon 11y ago
So much here in this conversation. First, this reminds me of Obama's hourlong conversation with the podcaster Marc Maron (this past June 22) in which he visited Marc's garage in a very ordinary neighborhood in LA for the podcast. During the podcast, which is 100% worth listening to if you are interested in the president, he touched on the theme of reaching around the media, which apply a filter that really forces much political dialogue into a rut. This is also how he opens this conversation. Another theme that interests me is Obama's growing confidence, born out of wiping the competition out in two consecutive elections, and weathering a lot of political storms with, really, very little in the way of huge mistakes. I know it's possible to critique his presidency, but, using the last few presidents as a yardstick -- fewer self-inflicted wounds. Finally, Obama's return to the theme of "homespun values." I find it quite charming, while also being, honestly, somewhat puzzled. This is a quite sophisticated intellect (e.g., editor of Harvard Law Review, etc., etc.) to be appealing to some sort of "well-understood" system of values.
- NN88 11y ago
  outside of Syria, you could only argue that the aggression of Russia has been his glaring foreign policy flaw.
  - tsotha 11y ago
    Oh? What about Libya?
    - EdSharkey 11y ago
      Yeah, what was the plan in Libya? And why did we dump Hozni Mubarak in Egypt almost handing a friendly country over to the Muslim brotherhood. And obama did not support rebellion in iran during the Arab spring. And openly snubbing Israel all the time, confirming they have nukes out of spite... Total confusion over what to do with Syria. Ditching the Iraqis. Russia running circles around us in Ukraine and Syria. Obama's foreign policy and leadership at state has been a complete mess, stirring up hornets nests all over the world.
twoodfin 11y ago
And the thing I’ve been struggling with throughout my political career is how do you close the gap. There’s all this goodness and decency and common sense on the ground, and somehow it gets translated into rigid, dogmatic, often mean-spirited politics. Well, one way that happens is when political leaders don't try to engage their opponents' best arguments, but instead set up straw men that are wonderfully fun to watch burn: Whenever I hear people saying that our problems would be solved without government, I always want to tell them you need to go to some other countries where there really is no government, where the roads are never repaired, where nobody has facilitated electricity going everywhere even where it’s not economical, where... the postal system doesn’t work, or kids don’t have access to basic primary education. That’s the logical conclusion if, in fact, you think that government is the enemy. The GOP (thankfully) isn't composed of a bunch of anarchists, and framing your opposition as only made up of the idiots who run around saying "Keep government out of my Medicare" is not really a great way to persuade folks that, say, a $4.1T government is worth $300B more taxes and debt than a $3.8T government. Either could keep the roads paved and the mail delivered.
- deleted 11y ago
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- cromwellian 11y ago
  You mean hundreds of GOP representatives did not sign a pledge written by a philosphical leader who wants to "drown the government in a bathtub" Are these the same Republicans who when asked in debates what they'll do as president talk mostly about bulking up the military and buying more jets and ships? Or who want to spend more getting involved in wars or building walls? If you look at Paul Ryan's budget it's pretty easy to conclude the opposition is run by idiots. And if you want to straw man you opponents, how about calling them Marxists, doubt they're even American, claim they don't love America, that they're tearing up the constitution, that stuff they've done that every other gop president has done is "unprecedented" The GOP has been hyperbolically twisting Obama policies since day 1 stoking up fear. "death panels"? Coming to grab you guns?
- tsotha 11y ago
  That's the way he's always been. Remember the "bitter clingers" remarks?
NN88 11y ago
Come out of the atheist closet already. Good grief man.
- sriram_sun 11y ago
  Amazing Grace...

29 points by samclemens 11y ago

Obama and the atheist CIA wake each day and ask, "How can I fuck God, today? We'll make nuns perform abortions. We make homos dance naked in Russian churches in front of old ladies. Isn't that hilarious? We'll make a complete mockery of marriage because, after all, niggers don't have fathers and that's not fair. Michelle wants no cupcakes for birthdays because of bastards. We'll make God hated -- for pedophiles and crazy insane sand-niggers. We'll drink fetus tomato soup with the queen and celebrate the end of birth. Having children is pedophillic. We'll slap a condom in ever African's bowl of cereal and make the 5 year old African girls learn how to put on a condom. We'll make churchs no longer tax exempt. <Giggle> We'll make all the conservative sons into liberal atheist homos. <Giggle> Will throw open the border and bring in Mexicans ruining race in American... doing this treason just for democratic votes. USA will be a slum like Mexico with niggers and Mexicans and no white people." That's what you want, right Obama? Obama has a revelation, "Yikes! What if there were no white people! Holy shit! I love white people, come back! How come white people don't have kids? Oh yeah, we made the white people covet the wealth of the dirty rich." ------ The president is an atheist. Believe me! The world would know if the president was converted. It hits you like ten tons of bricks. He would cancel everything for two weeks and probably resign. ----- The nigger brain is defective. It cannot understand probability. If a scientist needed a random number for an experimient to publish in a paper, this is what He would use: http://www.nist.gov/itl/csd/ct/nist_beacon.cfm http://www.nist.gov/itl/csd/ct/nist_beacon.cfm White scientists without doubt accept it like NASA lottery balls. Sadly, I deal with niggers. They don't accept NIST, the institute of standards.

orf 11y ago

Wow, Terry Davis sure stepped up his hate game this time. Interesting article though.

mturmon 11y ago

So much here in this conversation. First, this reminds me of Obama's hourlong conversation with the podcaster Marc Maron (this past June 22) in which he visited Marc's garage in a very ordinary neighborhood in LA for the podcast. During the podcast, which is 100% worth listening to if you are interested in the president, he touched on the theme of reaching around the media, which apply a filter that really forces much political dialogue into a rut. This is also how he opens this conversation. Another theme that interests me is Obama's growing confidence, born out of wiping the competition out in two consecutive elections, and weathering a lot of political storms with, really, very little in the way of huge mistakes. I know it's possible to critique his presidency, but, using the last few presidents as a yardstick -- fewer self-inflicted wounds. Finally, Obama's return to the theme of "homespun values." I find it quite charming, while also being, honestly, somewhat puzzled. This is a quite sophisticated intellect (e.g., editor of Harvard Law Review, etc., etc.) to be appealing to some sort of "well-understood" system of values.

NN88 11y ago
outside of Syria, you could only argue that the aggression of Russia has been his glaring foreign policy flaw.
- tsotha 11y ago
  Oh? What about Libya?
  - EdSharkey 11y ago
    Yeah, what was the plan in Libya? And why did we dump Hozni Mubarak in Egypt almost handing a friendly country over to the Muslim brotherhood. And obama did not support rebellion in iran during the Arab spring. And openly snubbing Israel all the time, confirming they have nukes out of spite... Total confusion over what to do with Syria. Ditching the Iraqis. Russia running circles around us in Ukraine and Syria. Obama's foreign policy and leadership at state has been a complete mess, stirring up hornets nests all over the world.

twoodfin 11y ago

And the thing I’ve been struggling with throughout my political career is how do you close the gap. There’s all this goodness and decency and common sense on the ground, and somehow it gets translated into rigid, dogmatic, often mean-spirited politics. Well, one way that happens is when political leaders don't try to engage their opponents' best arguments, but instead set up straw men that are wonderfully fun to watch burn: Whenever I hear people saying that our problems would be solved without government, I always want to tell them you need to go to some other countries where there really is no government, where the roads are never repaired, where nobody has facilitated electricity going everywhere even where it’s not economical, where... the postal system doesn’t work, or kids don’t have access to basic primary education. That’s the logical conclusion if, in fact, you think that government is the enemy. The GOP (thankfully) isn't composed of a bunch of anarchists, and framing your opposition as only made up of the idiots who run around saying "Keep government out of my Medicare" is not really a great way to persuade folks that, say, a $4.1T government is worth $300B more taxes and debt than a $3.8T government. Either could keep the roads paved and the mail delivered.

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cromwellian 11y ago
You mean hundreds of GOP representatives did not sign a pledge written by a philosphical leader who wants to "drown the government in a bathtub" Are these the same Republicans who when asked in debates what they'll do as president talk mostly about bulking up the military and buying more jets and ships? Or who want to spend more getting involved in wars or building walls? If you look at Paul Ryan's budget it's pretty easy to conclude the opposition is run by idiots. And if you want to straw man you opponents, how about calling them Marxists, doubt they're even American, claim they don't love America, that they're tearing up the constitution, that stuff they've done that every other gop president has done is "unprecedented" The GOP has been hyperbolically twisting Obama policies since day 1 stoking up fear. "death panels"? Coming to grab you guns?
tsotha 11y ago
That's the way he's always been. Remember the "bitter clingers" remarks?

NN88 11y ago

Come out of the atheist closet already. Good grief man.

sriram_sun 11y ago
Amazing Grace...