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First we were told to be nice to the rich and give them tax reduction, because we will be all happy for the trickling down pennies. And now we are supposed to g

First we were told to be nice to the rich and give them tax reduction, because we will be all happy for the trickling down pennies. And now we are supposed to give the cooperation tax relief because there is money trickling down from the employees?

raverbashing 11y ago
Do you know what's even better? The rich taking their business somewhere else Then the unions can cry foul about how the big bad companies wouldn't put up with their crap anymore I'm sure in an ideal world everybody would be a public servant with no productivity goals but that has problems as well
- tobltobs 11y ago
  Sorry, I do not get what you want to say.
- h909415 11y ago
  >The rich taking their business somewhere else They already did. That's the whole point of globalization.
caskance 11y ago
You're not "supposed" to do anything. If you want to raise tax, raise tax. Just keep in mind that this changes incentives for anyone who has to pay that tax. That's not a threat, it's a fact.
- tobltobs 11y ago
  I do not want to raise taxes. I just want that everybody pays his taxes, because than we could lower taxes.
  - caskance 11y ago
    I haven't seen anyone claim that Facebook is failing to pay all the tax they are legally obligated to pay. Did you mean something else by "everybody pays his taxes?"
    - tobltobs 11y ago
      There are currently investigations in the EU if FB did fullfil the requirements to use the tax loopholes they are using. If not, FB did not pay the taxes they are obligated to pay.
      - caskance 11y ago
        "Investigations in the EU" means jack shit. There have also been "investigations in the EU" about whether Google is an illegal monopoly and whether Facebook needs to segregate all its data on European entities into separate European data centers.
        kuschku 11y ago
        And one of those led to Facebook being charged billions, and the others will lead to the same outcome. "Investigations in the EU" means you’re fucked.
        caskance 11y ago
        From the perspective of someone who actually understands modern technology, they actually mean the EU is fucked.
        kuschku 11y ago
        From the perspective of someone who sees the options of "fuck your own population over and kill all healthcare, welfare, etc" or "force companies to pay their taxes, and maybe lose some features like Germany has almost no Google services available", I’m pretty happy with the choice of free healthcare, college, etc vs. having access to Google Wallet

raverbashing 11y ago

Do you know what's even better? The rich taking their business somewhere else Then the unions can cry foul about how the big bad companies wouldn't put up with their crap anymore I'm sure in an ideal world everybody would be a public servant with no productivity goals but that has problems as well

tobltobs 11y ago
Sorry, I do not get what you want to say.
h909415 11y ago
>The rich taking their business somewhere else They already did. That's the whole point of globalization.

caskance 11y ago

You're not "supposed" to do anything. If you want to raise tax, raise tax. Just keep in mind that this changes incentives for anyone who has to pay that tax. That's not a threat, it's a fact.

tobltobs 11y ago
I do not want to raise taxes. I just want that everybody pays his taxes, because than we could lower taxes.
- caskance 11y ago
  I haven't seen anyone claim that Facebook is failing to pay all the tax they are legally obligated to pay. Did you mean something else by "everybody pays his taxes?"
  - tobltobs 11y ago
    There are currently investigations in the EU if FB did fullfil the requirements to use the tax loopholes they are using. If not, FB did not pay the taxes they are obligated to pay.
    - caskance 11y ago
      "Investigations in the EU" means jack shit. There have also been "investigations in the EU" about whether Google is an illegal monopoly and whether Facebook needs to segregate all its data on European entities into separate European data centers.
      - kuschku 11y ago
        And one of those led to Facebook being charged billions, and the others will lead to the same outcome. "Investigations in the EU" means you’re fucked.
        caskance 11y ago
        From the perspective of someone who actually understands modern technology, they actually mean the EU is fucked.
        kuschku 11y ago
        From the perspective of someone who sees the options of "fuck your own population over and kill all healthcare, welfare, etc" or "force companies to pay their taxes, and maybe lose some features like Germany has almost no Google services available", I’m pretty happy with the choice of free healthcare, college, etc vs. having access to Google Wallet