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You're also not supposed to point out such advantages. You'll be ostracized and placed into "male rights" sub group which has very negative connotations in gene

by howeyc 11y ago

You're also not supposed to point out such advantages. You'll be ostracized and placed into "male rights" sub group which has very negative connotations in general society. Tread lightly.

sridca 11y ago
> Tread lightly. As long as you dispassionately and sensibly point out the injustice being done in the name of justice, what is the problem? The biggest issue now seems to be men not speaking up against their detractors. On the lighter side: "Women are constantly patting themselves on the back for how difficult their lives are and no one corrects them because they want to fuck 'em." – Bill Burr https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoJrMaFlxOk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoJrMaFlxOk
- maxcan 11y ago
  I don't think the comment meant that dispassionately and sensibly pointing out the double standard is problematic but that one runs the risk of facing a large, internet backlash for pointing out certain classes of double standards of which the one above is one.
  - sridca 11y ago
    Let me rephrase what I said for clarity: the biggest issue now seems to be men not speaking up against their detractors for fear of being ostracized, of being labelled a member of a group with negative connotations, of facing a large internet backlash.
    - maxcan 11y ago
      In which case, I absolutely agree. I've made the mistake of sharing my thoughts on these issues before. "But once you’ve won a culture war, free speech is a nuisance, and “eliminating” language becomes a necessity." - http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/09/thats-not-funny/399335/?utm_source=SFTwitter http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/09/thats-no...
      - sridca 11y ago
        So coming back to what I said - as long as you dispassionately and sensibly point out the injustice being done in the name of justice, what is the problem? Our fear is what makes the SJW shaming tactics effective. Men -- men in tech in particular -- gotta buckle up and speak frankly. Learn to stand up for themselves, without letting other people -- women in particular -- control their every thought.

by howeyc 11y ago

You're also not supposed to point out such advantages. You'll be ostracized and placed into "male rights" sub group which has very negative connotations in general society. Tread lightly.

sridca 11y ago

> Tread lightly. As long as you dispassionately and sensibly point out the injustice being done in the name of justice, what is the problem? The biggest issue now seems to be men not speaking up against their detractors. On the lighter side: "Women are constantly patting themselves on the back for how difficult their lives are and no one corrects them because they want to fuck 'em." – Bill Burr https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoJrMaFlxOk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoJrMaFlxOk

maxcan 11y ago
I don't think the comment meant that dispassionately and sensibly pointing out the double standard is problematic but that one runs the risk of facing a large, internet backlash for pointing out certain classes of double standards of which the one above is one.
- sridca 11y ago
  Let me rephrase what I said for clarity: the biggest issue now seems to be men not speaking up against their detractors for fear of being ostracized, of being labelled a member of a group with negative connotations, of facing a large internet backlash.
  - maxcan 11y ago
    In which case, I absolutely agree. I've made the mistake of sharing my thoughts on these issues before. "But once you’ve won a culture war, free speech is a nuisance, and “eliminating” language becomes a necessity." - http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/09/thats-not-funny/399335/?utm_source=SFTwitter http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/09/thats-no...
    - sridca 11y ago
      So coming back to what I said - as long as you dispassionately and sensibly point out the injustice being done in the name of justice, what is the problem? Our fear is what makes the SJW shaming tactics effective. Men -- men in tech in particular -- gotta buckle up and speak frankly. Learn to stand up for themselves, without letting other people -- women in particular -- control their every thought.