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Sorry, that's nonsense. The problem not only in the bay area is the irrational and unnecessary concentration of people. It is quite unsettling to me that just b
by wahsd 11y ago
Sorry, that's nonsense. The problem not only in the bay area is the irrational and unnecessary concentration of people. It is quite unsettling to me that just because some people don't like what you do on or with your private property that you feel entitled to impose yourself and your will upon them. It's really a kind of liberal tyranny that is not only sweeping this country but it seems at least the western world. It strikes me as a kind of lower class hacking order / squabbling and anger that really should be focused on the only legitimate and justifiable target for anger and animosity, the wealthy. Just because you and your fellow drones are frustrated that they can't afford to live in the place they want to live does not justify some sort of right or privilege to simply demand it or throw a tantrum about it and impose your will in an oppressive manner.
The real problem here is why this concentration of people and opportunity and economic activity is happening in the first place. I bet that if the government had not or would cut off the economic centers in the country from government spending and made a deliberate effort to inject money into slightly less economically active areas that only need an money injection, the housing problem in SF, NYC, Austin, etc. would essentially evaporate overnight.
Ultimately the real problem is a concentration of opportunities in a few economic centers, which is irrational in and of itself and only perversion of a manipulated, mutated, and distorted market due to the spike in oil prices that have dropped off and the Fed pumping money into the highest layers of society, which has led the little rat and roaches to squabble over the crumbs and droppings of the wealthy all around their hives and layers. You want to solve the housing problem far faster than being authoritarian dicks??? Vote for Bernie Sanders, or really anyone who will break up the grotesque concentration of wealth with a few and in a few places.
- tmorton 11y agoThe downvotes here are really inappropriate. I disagree with most of this comment, but it's well up to the standards of political discourse on HN.
- epistasis 11y agoNonsense, it's just inflammatory language unbound by facts, it should never have been posted. > It's really a kind of liberal tyranny... >I bet that if the government had not or would cut off the economic centers in the country from government spending >...only perversion of a manipulated, mutated, and distorted market due to the spike in oil prices... >...authoritarian dicks??? These are not the ramblings of one based in reality or the basis for a reasonable discussion.
- freehunter 11y agoIs it? Just because it's political and long-winded doesn't mean it's quality. He doesn't even have a point. "Rah, filthy liberals and poor drones trying to live in the city where they have jobs, rah fight against big government imposing its control over you, oh by the way you should vote for a socialist." Does that make any sense? It's the pointless rambling of someone who wants to use the government to force you to stop using the government to force him to do something he doesn't want to do. It boils down to "the government should stop letting poor people vote". Pure nonsense.
- chetanahuja 11y ago"It's really a kind of liberal tyranny that is not only sweeping this country but it seems at least the western world. It strikes me as a kind of lower class hacking order / squabbling and anger" Yeah..No. It's just rantings of someone steeped deeply in one extreme of a the political spectrum.
- erispoe 11y agoFirst, concentration of economic value in urban centers is a constant since the first cities appeared. That's what they are for. This is not the result of a government ploy. This is not a 10'000 years old conspiracy. Second, no one is forcing homeowners to tear down their houses or do things they don't want to do with their private property. The debate is not about eminent domain. There are enough landowners willing to sell their piece of land to develop dense housing, enough developers willing to build it, and enough buyers or renters for the housing. The current nimbyism of trying to force your neighbors to conform to your little vision of what they should do or not do with their piece of land goes against the private property rights you advocate for. Let them build what they want to build on their property.
- pbreit 11y agoI don't really understand your whole post but am also not sure it merits down voting. Where I think you're wrong is with respect to concentration of people/activity/opportunity. It is quite natural for such concentrations to occur and certainly far from irrational.