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>I wish Quebec would stop talking and separate already; they barely share any common values with the rest of us and are constantly doing embarrassing and (feder
by noarchy 11y ago
>I wish Quebec would stop talking and separate already; they barely share any common values with the rest of us and are constantly doing embarrassing and (federally) illegal things like this.
Quebecer here. It isn't 1995. There is no appetite here for separation. Yes, there are still blowhards championing the cause, but a referendum today would be overwhelmingly defeated.
I won't comment on your statement that Quebecers "barely share any common values with the rest of us", as it isn't worth it.
As for the "illegality" of the maple syrup system, I think the system is absurd, but it isn't as if this is Canada's only cartel. Yet you took it as an opportunity to slam Quebec.
- aianus 11y agoIt was less of a 'slam' and more pointing out that there is not enough in common between Quebec and the rest of Canada for it to be one country. Religion, language, political ideology, is all extremely different from the rest of the country. It doesn't make any sense. > Quebecer here. It isn't 1995. There is no appetite here for separation. Of course not, why give up the economic benefits of being part of Canada when you barely have to abide by Canadian law as it is? > As for the "illegality" of the maple syrup system, I think the system is absurd, but it isn't as if this is Canada's only cartel. This is the only one I'm aware of that isn't run directly by the federal government. But I'd love to hear about more of them.
- someear 11y agoreligion, language, political ideology a reason to separate? Are you against immigrants too, since they dont align with the 3 of those characteristics? Diversity is good, learn to accept it, it's your inevitable future whether you like it or not (as long as you plan to live in Canada)
- aianus 11y ago> religion, language, political ideology a reason to separate? I'd think so; those differences are why we have different nations in the first place. Otherwise we'd all be living under some global government, no? > Are you against immigrants too, since they dont align with the 3 of those characteristics? Only if they started making up their own unconstitutional laws governing their ethnic enclaves. Eg. "Chinese signs must be bigger than English signs or you go to jail!" Edit: btw there's nothing about supporting Quebecois sovereignty that makes me "against" Quebeckers. I'm not "against" the French or Italians but it wouldn't make any sense for them to be a part of Canada either.
- earlyriser 11y agoThe difference here is that French Quebecers didn't arrive to Canada at that point. They were already there, and then Britain took control. In these cases we have 3 historical options: genocide, cultural assimilation or a bi-cultural territory. I personally think the third option is the the one creating more richness even if has a lot of friction.
- chm 11y agoAnd it's only been relatively recently considered as an option. You don't have to go back far to learn that the stated objective was cultural assimilation. The situation seems to have changed for the better in the last 50-60 years. Quebec separatism didn't just sprout out of nowhere.
- noarchy 11y agoYou may have more against Quebec than the average Quebecer has with the ROC. The population here isn't as homogeneous as your broad strokes have painted it to be. I'd probably agree with you on a number of your criticisms of things that happen here, particularly in the political realm, but I can't get on board with the generalizations that you make.
- chris_wot 11y agoWhat, the rest of Canada has uniformly homogenous views on religion, language and political ideology? Except for the language, I think that's highly unlikely.
- exabrial 11y agoI agree, lumping all of Canada into a single 51st state is absurd.