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You doubt university administrators sincerity ;) I've noticed very few of these articles look at the recent past ('80s) when women were a significant percentag
by bjwbell 11y ago
You doubt university administrators sincerity ;)
I've noticed very few of these articles look at the recent past ('80s) when women were a significant percentage of programmers. I'm too young but I have the feeling working conditions were much better back then.
- eru 11y ago> I'm too young but I have the feeling working conditions were much better back then. You mean working conditions for programmers? From talking to people who worked in computing back then (like my grandfather), it seems like we have it better today. Of course that's only anecdotal, and my perception of today is as coloured as my choice of people to talk to. Would be interesting to see a more formal study.
- droidist2 11y agoOld people always say they had it worse though. "In my day we had to walk 15 miles in the snow to compile our code." Yeah but rent costed 2 days pay back then, not 2 weeks.
- hawkice 11y agoTook me a while to find actual numbers that could give good approximations of how true this is. http://www.tenement.org/encyclopedia/housing_rent.htm http://www.tenement.org/encyclopedia/housing_rent.htm Turns out, it's actually pretty accurate. But food was much more expensive, sucking up maybe ten days of income (and that's 100% groceries, which is rare enough these days, I suppose). Clothing, though, that's where you see the real change. Cheaper these days in non-inflation adjusted dollars than it was in the 1890's, in you can believe it (maybe I buy fewer articles of clothing than most people, but likely not less clothing than people in 1890).
- zobzu 11y agoOddly accurate, I guess bay area rent is indeed pay in about 2 weeks with current salaries. Source: my rent is about 2 weeks of pay (which sucks and doesn't feel very sustainable, mind you)
- eru 11y agoOh, I didn't ask directly about how bad he had it. More like general talking about working conditions (and he sees them as normal).