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>I just don't see the need to say it goes beyond physical reality - there's just no proof of that. What physical reality are you talking about? To the best we

>I just don't see the need to say it goes beyond physical reality - there's just no proof of that. What physical reality are you talking about? To the best we can ascertain, we only have subjective experiences of perceptions of electromagnetic phenomena. We don't get to perceive physical reality, only our own interpretation of what is postulated as an image of the physical reality. It appears that there can be no proof either way whether a physical reality actually exists or not. All we can know is that we have a subjective experience. We can hypothesize that it arises from some other "thing", but there is no way we can know. Also, I'm not sure anyone in this thread chain has claimed that consciousness goes beyond physical reality. I think you are the only who has assumed a physical reality (also, with no "proof").

oldmanjay 11y ago
Reliable computing technology is as revealing of an objectively existing physical reality as I need. The rules are solidly understood, do not change depending on our perception, and any "evidence" to the contrary that I've heard requires philosophical thought experiments.
- jsprogrammer 11y ago
  >Reliable computing technology is as revealing of an objectively existing physical reality as I need. What do you mean by this? All you need is Boolean algebra to derive every reliable aspect of our computing technology. 01~& Yes, you need a machine that can "execute it", but every reliable thing that a current computing machine will do is predicted by consecutive and parallel applications of the truth table: a|b|a~&b -|-|---- 0|0| 1 0|1| 1 1|0| 1 1|1| 0 Do you mean that Boolean algebra is the objectively existing physical reality; is a part of the objectively existing physical reality; or, is only evidence of an objectively existing physical reality? If it is only evidence, in what way is it evidence?

oldmanjay 11y ago

Reliable computing technology is as revealing of an objectively existing physical reality as I need. The rules are solidly understood, do not change depending on our perception, and any "evidence" to the contrary that I've heard requires philosophical thought experiments.

jsprogrammer 11y ago
>Reliable computing technology is as revealing of an objectively existing physical reality as I need. What do you mean by this? All you need is Boolean algebra to derive every reliable aspect of our computing technology. 01~& Yes, you need a machine that can "execute it", but every reliable thing that a current computing machine will do is predicted by consecutive and parallel applications of the truth table: a|b|a~&b -|-|---- 0|0| 1 0|1| 1 1|0| 1 1|1| 0 Do you mean that Boolean algebra is the objectively existing physical reality; is a part of the objectively existing physical reality; or, is only evidence of an objectively existing physical reality? If it is only evidence, in what way is it evidence?