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Accessing resources on a system requires privileges. So java is inherently more insecure than C, because java developers are not aware that every time they acc

Accessing resources on a system requires privileges. So java is inherently more insecure than C, because java developers are not aware that every time they access a socket, authentication, a file, ram they need privileges. And they tweak whatever policies and rules of the OS to do so. Yes : the problem is not the java dev but the sysadmins... Sysadmins says no it is unsecure, so companies say let's hire clueless devs call them devops and handle the delicate problem of secured access to resources by telling them: make it possible. It is not by hiding dust under the carpet, moving the problem to another place (from code to containers) and creating new "paradigms" to hide the inherent complexity of coding that situation will improve. in 2015 we are still lacking of able developers and every technic to work around the scarcity of really able developers are a failure and adding noise. Software is as good as the lowest "software" IQ of the member of the crowd building it -managers included-. Our managers are clueless, most our devs/devops/sysadmins are frauds.

cows_i_have 11y ago
Though I understand your reasoning as to why you call devops etc fraud, these developers are under a huge amount of pressure from the business side of things to "just make it work TM".
- SFjulie1 11y ago
  The chain is as strong as every links in it. Professionals knowing their jobs have a responsability. Manager sux bigger because they have bigger authority, devs sux because they are supposed to have the knowledge.
- crpatino 11y ago
  But you are conceding the point, aren't you? It does not matter if you do the wrong thing because you are an incompetent hack or because you are a low status pawn that got cornered by management into choosing the least worse of a bunch of bad options. The fact remains that a weak solution was implemented, by you, and that it is a matter of time before your employer and their customers suffer the consequences. I'd like to believe that if we were like doctors and our managers came up with some incredibly stupid idea like "let's save cost by reusing hypodermic needles", we could simply refuse to work and force the penny pinchers to back off. But the cynic in me tells me that doctors have to fight every single day to fend off a parade of equally misguided (though not recognizable as such by the public) ideas, and that more often than not, they end up choosing to keep their own families fed and clothed over the theoretical Hippocratic Oath.

cows_i_have 11y ago

Though I understand your reasoning as to why you call devops etc fraud, these developers are under a huge amount of pressure from the business side of things to "just make it work TM".

SFjulie1 11y ago
The chain is as strong as every links in it. Professionals knowing their jobs have a responsability. Manager sux bigger because they have bigger authority, devs sux because they are supposed to have the knowledge.
crpatino 11y ago
But you are conceding the point, aren't you? It does not matter if you do the wrong thing because you are an incompetent hack or because you are a low status pawn that got cornered by management into choosing the least worse of a bunch of bad options. The fact remains that a weak solution was implemented, by you, and that it is a matter of time before your employer and their customers suffer the consequences. I'd like to believe that if we were like doctors and our managers came up with some incredibly stupid idea like "let's save cost by reusing hypodermic needles", we could simply refuse to work and force the penny pinchers to back off. But the cynic in me tells me that doctors have to fight every single day to fend off a parade of equally misguided (though not recognizable as such by the public) ideas, and that more often than not, they end up choosing to keep their own families fed and clothed over the theoretical Hippocratic Oath.