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I hope all this attention on emissions and cheating helps to accelerate the transition to electric vehicles.

by andyl 11y ago

artursapek 11y ago
Elon made sure to take a jab at it during the recent Model X event. I hope it is.
venomsnake 11y ago
The transition would be easier if there were any available at a decent price.
- jakobegger 11y ago
  There are a bunch of EVs on the market at reasonable price points, eg. Nissan Leaf, Renault Zoe. If you need something bigger you can get a Renault Kangoo or the Nissan NV200. Granted, those aren't very sexy cars, but it's not like Tesla is the only option. You can even get used electric cars already.
- jeromeflipo 11y ago
  The transition would be very quick if fossil fuels were taxed according to their damage on health and climate change. EVs would become comparatively cheap in a just few years, and their price would also come down very fast as the production of battery packs increased massively. The technology is already here, we just have to manufacture these cars and set up the charging network (already much cheaper than the fuel station infrastructure).
  - superuser2 11y ago
    67% of US electricity is generated by fossil fuels, so for most people the price of electricity would skyrocket too. Nuclear power accounts for 19%; those in a nuclear power plant's coverage zone would see EVs being cheaper than gasoline-powered cars, unless you factored in the nuclear waste storage problem. Those near powerful rivers can benefit from the 7% of electricity from hydropower dams. Wind and solar together are less than 5% of US electricity generation and basically irrelevant as a source of power for our transportation needs. EVs are not a panacea; cities are. Demolish the suburbs, build vertically, live within walking distance of things, and you won't need so much energy.
    - jeromeflipo 11y ago
      You could invest all the revenue from fossil fuel taxes in renewable energy so that everybody benefits from it.

I hope all this attention on emissions and cheating helps to accelerate the transition to electric vehicles.

by andyl 11y ago

I hope all this attention on emissions and cheating helps to accelerate the transition to electric vehicles.

artursapek 11y ago

Elon made sure to take a jab at it during the recent Model X event. I hope it is.

venomsnake 11y ago

The transition would be easier if there were any available at a decent price.

jakobegger 11y ago
There are a bunch of EVs on the market at reasonable price points, eg. Nissan Leaf, Renault Zoe. If you need something bigger you can get a Renault Kangoo or the Nissan NV200. Granted, those aren't very sexy cars, but it's not like Tesla is the only option. You can even get used electric cars already.
jeromeflipo 11y ago
The transition would be very quick if fossil fuels were taxed according to their damage on health and climate change. EVs would become comparatively cheap in a just few years, and their price would also come down very fast as the production of battery packs increased massively. The technology is already here, we just have to manufacture these cars and set up the charging network (already much cheaper than the fuel station infrastructure).
- superuser2 11y ago
  67% of US electricity is generated by fossil fuels, so for most people the price of electricity would skyrocket too. Nuclear power accounts for 19%; those in a nuclear power plant's coverage zone would see EVs being cheaper than gasoline-powered cars, unless you factored in the nuclear waste storage problem. Those near powerful rivers can benefit from the 7% of electricity from hydropower dams. Wind and solar together are less than 5% of US electricity generation and basically irrelevant as a source of power for our transportation needs. EVs are not a panacea; cities are. Demolish the suburbs, build vertically, live within walking distance of things, and you won't need so much energy.
  - jeromeflipo 11y ago
    You could invest all the revenue from fossil fuel taxes in renewable energy so that everybody benefits from it.