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There is also Rich's "Are we there yet?" talk - HN Discussion here [http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=938564 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=938564] that
by raju 17y ago
There is also Rich's "Are we there yet?" talk - HN Discussion here [http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=938564 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=938564] that acts as a nice supplement to this.