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Seeing everyone on here so dismissive is simply shocking to me. If you don't like these results or don't believe them look at the overall trend folks. A decade

by redwood 11y ago

Seeing everyone on here so dismissive is simply shocking to me. If you don't like these results or don't believe them look at the overall trend folks. A decade ago there wouldn't have been the Chinese University in the top 10. Now they have half the top rankings. I take my hat off to them; I respect their achievements and if you follow the trend forward they look unstoppable.and of the people at these universities they or their parents grew up in villages without electricity with nothing. they've built out of that the ability to scratch the stars quickly. much respect let's hope this doesn't turn into a latent Cold War

olalonde 11y ago
> Seeing everyone on here so dismissive is simply shocking to me. Not to me. China bashing on HN is surprisingly common and rewarded with karma. Given that the average HNer doesn't know much about China, I assume the typical cognitive process goes something like "I want to believe this comment => up vote". I personally look forward to the day where we can put nationalism behind us. Also, props to Tsinghua.
blisterpeanuts 11y ago
BA/MA in Chinese studies here. I greatly admire China's accomplishments, starting back around 1,000 BC :) China today is on a trajectory of becoming the premier world technological power, simply based on its tremendous energy and drive and respect for learning. The U.S. and Europe are in decline, by comparison. The U.S. in particular is relying heavily on Chinese and other foreign students to keep its science, math, and engineering graduate programs going. The native U.S. population is lazy and unmotivated by comparison. And tellingly, increasing numbers of Chinese grads are returning to China to work rather than seeking citizenship in the U.S. Even non-Chinese are flocking to China to start up technology companies, something unheard of a generation or two back. I too hope this doesn't turn into some kind of cold war.
- vixen99 11y ago
  'The U.S. and Europe are in decline, by comparison'. No argument about this. Where are the passionate national debates about why this is so and what can be done about it? Or maybe they are going on and I'm not seeing them.
  - olalonde 11y ago
    http://blog.samaltman.com/china http://blog.samaltman.com/china
- WorldWideWayne 11y ago
  Don't you think China had some help getting to where they are today? Western governments and corporations have systematically moved all technological and manufacturing power to China for the past 60 years. How can the U.S. population possibly compete with China, when we've been completely sold out to them? Manufacturing and doing other types of business is not cheap or easy in the U.S. because of the situation that our trusted institutions have driven us into. I really don't think it has anything to do with the population being lazy or unmotivated. My bet - I think it's going to be a hot war and I think that's been the plan all along. China was conquered long ago by the West, but they are valued by the powers that be since their people are so easily enslaved. China is going to be the new super power and the US simply won't exist anymore. Just my opinion and I hope I'm wrong.

by redwood 11y ago

olalonde 11y ago

> Seeing everyone on here so dismissive is simply shocking to me. Not to me. China bashing on HN is surprisingly common and rewarded with karma. Given that the average HNer doesn't know much about China, I assume the typical cognitive process goes something like "I want to believe this comment => up vote". I personally look forward to the day where we can put nationalism behind us. Also, props to Tsinghua.

blisterpeanuts 11y ago

BA/MA in Chinese studies here. I greatly admire China's accomplishments, starting back around 1,000 BC :) China today is on a trajectory of becoming the premier world technological power, simply based on its tremendous energy and drive and respect for learning. The U.S. and Europe are in decline, by comparison. The U.S. in particular is relying heavily on Chinese and other foreign students to keep its science, math, and engineering graduate programs going. The native U.S. population is lazy and unmotivated by comparison. And tellingly, increasing numbers of Chinese grads are returning to China to work rather than seeking citizenship in the U.S. Even non-Chinese are flocking to China to start up technology companies, something unheard of a generation or two back. I too hope this doesn't turn into some kind of cold war.

vixen99 11y ago
'The U.S. and Europe are in decline, by comparison'. No argument about this. Where are the passionate national debates about why this is so and what can be done about it? Or maybe they are going on and I'm not seeing them.
- olalonde 11y ago
  http://blog.samaltman.com/china http://blog.samaltman.com/china
WorldWideWayne 11y ago
Don't you think China had some help getting to where they are today? Western governments and corporations have systematically moved all technological and manufacturing power to China for the past 60 years. How can the U.S. population possibly compete with China, when we've been completely sold out to them? Manufacturing and doing other types of business is not cheap or easy in the U.S. because of the situation that our trusted institutions have driven us into. I really don't think it has anything to do with the population being lazy or unmotivated. My bet - I think it's going to be a hot war and I think that's been the plan all along. China was conquered long ago by the West, but they are valued by the powers that be since their people are so easily enslaved. China is going to be the new super power and the US simply won't exist anymore. Just my opinion and I hope I'm wrong.