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ugh. > Sure, go ahead if you want a 2nd Civil War, we know our 20th Century history. Never again are not empty words to us. That sort of sentiment and postur

by mildbow 11y ago

ugh. > Sure, go ahead if you want a 2nd Civil War, we know our 20th Century history. Never again are not empty words to us. That sort of sentiment and posturing is very core of what is wrong with the "gun-ownership" movement. Do you really think if the government wanted to put down a rebellion (or whatever you are ominously alluding to) your paltry weapons would really make a difference? The "suicide by cop" statistic would increment and things would carry on. There really needs to be a change on how easy it is to procure fire-arms in the US. That shouldn't be up for debate or sidelining through traditionalist arguments. We have a problem today where people are actually getting murdered. So, your rhetoric is pretty empty and over-used.

hga 11y ago
It's not posturing, it's fair warning. Our adventures in the sandbox suggest your faith in our government's ability to suppress armed rebellion is grossly excessive. It also had a secure rear area. You're also assuming all the military will agree to this, despite what it'll cost them. I'm not alluding to anything, I'm frankly stating that, if you and yours succeed in this effort, me and mine will start killing you and yours (assuming you're in the US, of course). And if you think we're limited to out "paltry weapons". you suffer from an extreme lack of imagination. We've been debating this since at least the 30s, and I'm (not very) sorry to say that your side has decisively lost the debate. Sucks to be you, but in balance I like the result.
- mildbow 11y ago
  You are doing it again. "killing you and yours"? Give me a break. If rebellion or change is what you really want to affect, then you would be better served to look into how Gandhi managed to win against overwhelming odds, rather than whatever hollywood(?) fantasy you envision living out. Yeah, I have guns just like I have other tools and toys. But I don't have the same chip on my shoulder. If there needs to be a rebellion, I will be reaching for my camera and my twitter account, not my walther.
  - hga 11y ago
    If rebellion or change is what you really want to affect No, not in the least. Leave me and mine alone, and you'll be perfectly safe from us. Sure, I'd like for my brethren in California, Hawaii and the northeast (well, if you count Maryland and D.C. as part of that) to be less oppressed, but they can vote with their feet. As I did when I left Massachusetts. Gandhi won against an exhausted, civilized empire. Change the antagonist and he's a forgotten anonymous corpse.

by mildbow 11y ago

hga 11y ago

It's not posturing, it's fair warning. Our adventures in the sandbox suggest your faith in our government's ability to suppress armed rebellion is grossly excessive. It also had a secure rear area. You're also assuming all the military will agree to this, despite what it'll cost them. I'm not alluding to anything, I'm frankly stating that, if you and yours succeed in this effort, me and mine will start killing you and yours (assuming you're in the US, of course). And if you think we're limited to out "paltry weapons". you suffer from an extreme lack of imagination. We've been debating this since at least the 30s, and I'm (not very) sorry to say that your side has decisively lost the debate. Sucks to be you, but in balance I like the result.

mildbow 11y ago
You are doing it again. "killing you and yours"? Give me a break. If rebellion or change is what you really want to affect, then you would be better served to look into how Gandhi managed to win against overwhelming odds, rather than whatever hollywood(?) fantasy you envision living out. Yeah, I have guns just like I have other tools and toys. But I don't have the same chip on my shoulder. If there needs to be a rebellion, I will be reaching for my camera and my twitter account, not my walther.
- hga 11y ago
  If rebellion or change is what you really want to affect No, not in the least. Leave me and mine alone, and you'll be perfectly safe from us. Sure, I'd like for my brethren in California, Hawaii and the northeast (well, if you count Maryland and D.C. as part of that) to be less oppressed, but they can vote with their feet. As I did when I left Massachusetts. Gandhi won against an exhausted, civilized empire. Change the antagonist and he's a forgotten anonymous corpse.