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Do we think VW are the only car manufacturer doing this? I very much doubt it. They're just the first to get caught. Where rules stand in the way of profit, t
by austinjp 11y ago
Do we think VW are the only car manufacturer doing this? I very much doubt it. They're just the first to get caught.
Where rules stand in the way of profit, they get bent or broken. Banking, automotive industry... which next? Oil? Housing? Pfff ... come on, we all know they're rotten, it's just a question of how rotten and whether it comes out.
I suspect it's the tip of the iceberg for the auto industry. Whether we give a damn, and whether we can or will do anything about it remains to be seen.
- robotcookies 11y agoWhy are so many people keen on defending VW with the claim "if VW are doing it, everyone else must be"? That dilutes the severity of this problem. I've seen several threads on HN meant to do this.
- idbehold 11y ago> That dilutes the severity of this problem. No, it actually increases the severity of this problem. One car manufacturer cheating emissions vs. most car manufacturers cheating emissions.
- fnordfnordfnord 11y ago>Why are so many people keen on defending VW with the claim "if VW are doing it, everyone else must be"? Well for one reason, sanctioning one manufacturer for behavior that all manufacturers engage in means that selective enforcement can be used to pick off unwanted competition in the marketplace.
- tmalsburg2 11y agoNot to defend VW but "the severity of the problem"? Let's put this problem in context: VW cars may have more emissions that we used to think but at the same time a large part of the population insists on driving ridiculously oversized trucks which guzzle breathtaking amounts of gas for no good reason. I think the outrage is completely out of proportion.
- austinjp 11y agoJust noticed this reply. To clarify: I'm not defending VW in the slightest, simply pointing out that this is probably the tip of an ugly iceberg.
- rasz_pl 11y agoeveryone does this, so far I only saw only few independent tests, but in every one all diesels wre over limit http://www.focus.de/auto/ratgeber/kosten/unregelmaessigkeiten-nicht-nur-bei-vw-abgas-rueckfuehrung-mehrere-stunden-nicht-aktiv-vorwuerfe-auch-gegen-ford-und-peugeot_id_4998888.html http://www.focus.de/auto/ratgeber/kosten/unregelmaessigkeite...
- rdancer 11y agoThey have additional filters. It's not like the emission targets are impossible to meet. They're just impossible to meet without the filters.