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So my hobbies of homebrewing (88k alcohol related deaths), motorcycle riding (5k), and driving cars(22k) should all be banned?

by j_syk 11y ago

ascagnel_ 11y ago
88k alcohol "related" deaths is a suspicious number, but the other two require permits and licensure with mandated learning periods and an in-person demonstration that you can safely handle the vehicle. Gun regulations vary from state to state, and such a requirement is not present nationwide.
- talmand 11y ago
  Alcohol, motorcycle, and vehicle regulations also vary state-to-state. There are examples of operating a motorcycle and/or vehicle without a state license is allowed. You are required to have a license to operate the vehicle on public roads, for instance. Many states have similar regulations on carrying a weapon in public, versus having a gun only in your house. These states usually have similar requirements of training and demonstration of proficiency before granting a carry license. Although I've never heard of insurance for such a thing, but it wouldn't be a bad idea.
coldpie 11y ago
I said "murder". That is, intentional killing of another human being.
- j_syk 11y ago
  Do you know how many sport shooters or hunters are involved in murders? (legitimate question) While the situation in the US is bad, I don't think a straight ban is the answer. It's definitely complicated.
  - coldpie 11y ago
    > Do you know how many sport shooters or hunters are involved in murders? (legitimate question) No, and I don't understand the relevance. > While the situation in the US is bad, I don't think a straight ban is the answer. It's definitely complicated. It is indeed complicated, but it's pretty clear that the status quo isn't the answer either.
    - j_syk 11y ago
      The first question is in reference to your original statement of "find a new hobby". I'm using that to say that target shooting or hunting are hobbies. Whereas owning a gun for "safety" or "being cool" is not a hobby. And my speculation is that the latter group of gun owners is more of the problem.
      - coldpie 11y ago
        I think limiting gun ownership to the former group would be a reasonable compromise ;)
- Retra 11y ago
  That's not what murder is.

So my hobbies of homebrewing (88k alcohol related deaths), motorcycle riding (5k), and driving cars(22k) should all be banned?

by j_syk 11y ago

So my hobbies of homebrewing (88k alcohol related deaths), motorcycle riding (5k), and driving cars(22k) should all be banned?

ascagnel_ 11y ago

88k alcohol "related" deaths is a suspicious number, but the other two require permits and licensure with mandated learning periods and an in-person demonstration that you can safely handle the vehicle. Gun regulations vary from state to state, and such a requirement is not present nationwide.

talmand 11y ago
Alcohol, motorcycle, and vehicle regulations also vary state-to-state. There are examples of operating a motorcycle and/or vehicle without a state license is allowed. You are required to have a license to operate the vehicle on public roads, for instance. Many states have similar regulations on carrying a weapon in public, versus having a gun only in your house. These states usually have similar requirements of training and demonstration of proficiency before granting a carry license. Although I've never heard of insurance for such a thing, but it wouldn't be a bad idea.

coldpie 11y ago

I said "murder". That is, intentional killing of another human being.

j_syk 11y ago
Do you know how many sport shooters or hunters are involved in murders? (legitimate question) While the situation in the US is bad, I don't think a straight ban is the answer. It's definitely complicated.
- coldpie 11y ago
  > Do you know how many sport shooters or hunters are involved in murders? (legitimate question) No, and I don't understand the relevance. > While the situation in the US is bad, I don't think a straight ban is the answer. It's definitely complicated. It is indeed complicated, but it's pretty clear that the status quo isn't the answer either.
  - j_syk 11y ago
    The first question is in reference to your original statement of "find a new hobby". I'm using that to say that target shooting or hunting are hobbies. Whereas owning a gun for "safety" or "being cool" is not a hobby. And my speculation is that the latter group of gun owners is more of the problem.
    - coldpie 11y ago
      I think limiting gun ownership to the former group would be a reasonable compromise ;)
Retra 11y ago
That's not what murder is.