Well you're right, forced Stalinist style collectivization was a murderous failure. The poverty reduction was still made by a communist regime was the point I w

Well you're right, forced Stalinist style collectivization was a murderous failure. The poverty reduction was still made by a communist regime was the point I was trying to make. It's a poor example for what I'm trying to prove, Voluntary collectivization would be what I endorse. More like the kibbutzim of Israel.