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If you break it out of the gallery, you can get a little better look. http://light.co/content/2-gallery/gallery_modal_13.jpg http://light.co/content/2-gallery/g

If you break it out of the gallery, you can get a little better look. http://light.co/content/2-gallery/gallery_modal_13.jpg http://light.co/content/2-gallery/gallery_modal_13.jpg http://light.co/content/2-gallery/gallery_modal_14.jpg http://light.co/content/2-gallery/gallery_modal_14.jpg Pretty impressive.

vessenes 11y ago
I liked that first picture, too. And on closer inspection it's interesting -- some different color temperatures in different spots. I wonder if you get a natural HDR type capability using different sensors like this. The second one makes me think low light should be reasonably good, which is what I would hope for considering the technology description.
- moultano 11y ago
  Yeah, there does seem to be a little uncanniness to the lighting a la hdr. They feel painted. I'm curious how much post-processing went into each of these.
  - lumpypua 11y ago
    > Yeah, there does seem to be a little uncanniness to the lighting a la hdr. It is HDR. Multiple exposures means you can capture the full dynamic range in one "shot" and synthesize together the nicely exposed parts of each image. > I'm curious how much post-processing went into each of these. I mean, a bunch, but the camera's firmware is doing it. I'm sure typical punch up postprocessing happened for publication, still the interesting dynamic range stuff is happening in the camera.
    - thrownaway2424 11y ago
      Is there any reason you couldn't do a single-shot HDR with a single sensor, by modulating the sense amplifier gain on a per-pixel (or per-row, or per-column) basis? The ISO sensitivity of a digital camera is just a gain coefficient in some circuit, so it seems like it could be controlled during the readout.
      - moron4hire 11y ago
        Composite HDR shots are supposed to be done such that the shutter at the fastest speed properly exposes the highlights and the slowest speed completely blows out on the highlights, but the extremely dark shadows are properly exposed. In other words, it's about filling in the details when overexposure causes amplitude clipping. How most people end up shooting HDR, however, the component images mostly all have full detail in the shadows and highlights, meaning the final image really not much more than you've described. You can do that with a single shot and a contrast slider.
- eurekin 11y ago
  About the low light... You might want to take a look at this image as well: https://light.co/content/2-gallery/rtalt6.jpg https://light.co/content/2-gallery/rtalt6.jpg
  - lumpypua 11y ago
    That's insane how well the faces are exposed given the dynamic range of the light in that shot. With an SLR the correct exposure is like walking a tightrope. Definite postprocessing required to get a result near the L16 image.
    - saiya-jin 11y ago
      with lightroom, you'll get this by moving few sliders left or right in 10 seconds, given pic is coming from half-decent dslr, full frame ideally. all promotional photos anywhere are carefully photoshopped anyway.
    - unicornporn 11y ago
      That doesn't seem insane at all. There's not much light from the sun that has already set, there's light from the bulbs above and there looks to be light coming from behind the photographer. Also I see extreme amounts of noise even though it's downsampled to 1920 on the long side, especially in the black guys shirt. There seems to be lots of lost detail and and also loss of information in the shadows. Of course it would help to have full res images to say something substantial, but it doesn't look all that promising to me.
    - alkonaut 11y ago
      I don't see the problem with exposing that on an SLR. Just meter for the faces? It looks just like any noisy high-ISO SLR image to me?
      - moron4hire 11y ago
        Any modern full-frame Canon with the ol' "nifty fifty" (cheap fixed 50mm, 1.8f lens) could get a shot like this. I've taken portraits in-doors in candlelight with mine.
- anentropic 11y ago
  it looks a lot like HDR on smart-phone grade sensors the advantage here is that the HDR frames can (presumably) be captured simultaneously, reducing motion blur plus they seem to suggest some Lytro style ability to change the focus/depth of field after taking the photo
themgt 11y ago
Agreed. They've got a fascinatingly lifelike, "through your own eyes" look. Which to me is more interesting since our perception of sight is actually a mental re-representation, not a raw view of the data streaming in from your retinas at a given moment. So, perhaps somewhat analogous to multi-camera/aperture shots recombined in software.
unicornporn 11y ago
I'm looking at http://light.co/content/2-gallery/gallery_modal_13.jpg http://light.co/content/2-gallery/gallery_modal_13.jpg. Can you tell me exactly what looks impressive about that? The leafs outside seems to be more in focus that the little guys eyes. They even had the chance to set focus after capture, so I don't see why this should be happening. I see noise even at this resolution. I also see really bad highlight clipping (the "hitting a wall" type of clipping) and purple fringing like color shifts in the transparent plastic right above the vinyl. To see something interesting, take a look at the gray box in the lower left corner. In the absolute corner there's "increased resolution", and then to the right of this there's a sharp line where a more smudged area takes over. And no, that is not beacause of shallow DOF.

vessenes 11y ago

I liked that first picture, too. And on closer inspection it's interesting -- some different color temperatures in different spots. I wonder if you get a natural HDR type capability using different sensors like this. The second one makes me think low light should be reasonably good, which is what I would hope for considering the technology description.

moultano 11y ago
Yeah, there does seem to be a little uncanniness to the lighting a la hdr. They feel painted. I'm curious how much post-processing went into each of these.
- lumpypua 11y ago
  > Yeah, there does seem to be a little uncanniness to the lighting a la hdr. It is HDR. Multiple exposures means you can capture the full dynamic range in one "shot" and synthesize together the nicely exposed parts of each image. > I'm curious how much post-processing went into each of these. I mean, a bunch, but the camera's firmware is doing it. I'm sure typical punch up postprocessing happened for publication, still the interesting dynamic range stuff is happening in the camera.
  - thrownaway2424 11y ago
    Is there any reason you couldn't do a single-shot HDR with a single sensor, by modulating the sense amplifier gain on a per-pixel (or per-row, or per-column) basis? The ISO sensitivity of a digital camera is just a gain coefficient in some circuit, so it seems like it could be controlled during the readout.
    - moron4hire 11y ago
      Composite HDR shots are supposed to be done such that the shutter at the fastest speed properly exposes the highlights and the slowest speed completely blows out on the highlights, but the extremely dark shadows are properly exposed. In other words, it's about filling in the details when overexposure causes amplitude clipping. How most people end up shooting HDR, however, the component images mostly all have full detail in the shadows and highlights, meaning the final image really not much more than you've described. You can do that with a single shot and a contrast slider.
eurekin 11y ago
About the low light... You might want to take a look at this image as well: https://light.co/content/2-gallery/rtalt6.jpg https://light.co/content/2-gallery/rtalt6.jpg
- lumpypua 11y ago
  That's insane how well the faces are exposed given the dynamic range of the light in that shot. With an SLR the correct exposure is like walking a tightrope. Definite postprocessing required to get a result near the L16 image.
  - saiya-jin 11y ago
    with lightroom, you'll get this by moving few sliders left or right in 10 seconds, given pic is coming from half-decent dslr, full frame ideally. all promotional photos anywhere are carefully photoshopped anyway.
  - unicornporn 11y ago
    That doesn't seem insane at all. There's not much light from the sun that has already set, there's light from the bulbs above and there looks to be light coming from behind the photographer. Also I see extreme amounts of noise even though it's downsampled to 1920 on the long side, especially in the black guys shirt. There seems to be lots of lost detail and and also loss of information in the shadows. Of course it would help to have full res images to say something substantial, but it doesn't look all that promising to me.
  - alkonaut 11y ago
    I don't see the problem with exposing that on an SLR. Just meter for the faces? It looks just like any noisy high-ISO SLR image to me?
    - moron4hire 11y ago
      Any modern full-frame Canon with the ol' "nifty fifty" (cheap fixed 50mm, 1.8f lens) could get a shot like this. I've taken portraits in-doors in candlelight with mine.
anentropic 11y ago
it looks a lot like HDR on smart-phone grade sensors the advantage here is that the HDR frames can (presumably) be captured simultaneously, reducing motion blur plus they seem to suggest some Lytro style ability to change the focus/depth of field after taking the photo

themgt 11y ago

Agreed. They've got a fascinatingly lifelike, "through your own eyes" look. Which to me is more interesting since our perception of sight is actually a mental re-representation, not a raw view of the data streaming in from your retinas at a given moment. So, perhaps somewhat analogous to multi-camera/aperture shots recombined in software.

unicornporn 11y ago

I'm looking at http://light.co/content/2-gallery/gallery_modal_13.jpg http://light.co/content/2-gallery/gallery_modal_13.jpg. Can you tell me exactly what looks impressive about that? The leafs outside seems to be more in focus that the little guys eyes. They even had the chance to set focus after capture, so I don't see why this should be happening. I see noise even at this resolution. I also see really bad highlight clipping (the "hitting a wall" type of clipping) and purple fringing like color shifts in the transparent plastic right above the vinyl. To see something interesting, take a look at the gray box in the lower left corner. In the absolute corner there's "increased resolution", and then to the right of this there's a sharp line where a more smudged area takes over. And no, that is not beacause of shallow DOF.