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..but then they turn around and flatten said communities out of annoyance. A lot of subreddits with the same idea as FatPeopleHate got swept up in their ban de

..but then they turn around and flatten said communities out of annoyance. A lot of subreddits with the same idea as FatPeopleHate got swept up in their ban despite being run by different people and having never harassed anyone. A racist subreddit was banned out of some vague argument of being the focus of a lot of their time. (In other words, not for violating the rules.) It feels very much like another instance of what intopieces just described, a transparent PR lie.

bduerst 11y ago
That's exactly the point - they're banning behavior, not ideas. They didn't ban all racist or biased communities, just the ones that they saw causing harmful and damaging behavior. Or evading the bans. And before you demand internal information, just imagine the witch hunt that would start if Reddit had released the evidence of such behavior. That would have caused even more harm, even against innocent bystanders. The fact that they selectively banned communities based on their behavior and not their ideas proves they are for free speech, but it's not the "bastion of free speech" that some people interpret it as.
- Karunamon 11y ago
  ..did you miss the part where I said that subreddits who had explicitly not broken any rules were banned?
  - bduerst 11y ago
    Nope. I assumed you already knew that you couldn't prove they didn't break the rules when the admins said they did. Unless you think you can prove it without internal information. It was also pretty obvious that they were attaching the imgur staff.
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SolaceQuantum 11y ago
> never harassed anyone Except for that time where they attempted to dox the entirety of the Imgur staff which more or less precipitated their ban?
- Excavator 11y ago
  Dox? From what I've understood a user got annoyed with them removing images so a collage¹ were created using the pictures from the, now removed, Imgur "meet the team" page². 1: http://www.reaxxion.com/9552/reddit-and-imgur-staff-team-up-to-shut-down-the-fat-people-hate-subreddit http://www.reaxxion.com/9552/reddit-and-imgur-staff-team-up-... 2: http://web.archive.org/web/20150610212104/https://imgur.com/about/team http://web.archive.org/web/20150610212104/https://imgur.com/...
mark_integerdsv 11y ago
...and it will get worse. That is why free speech proponents defend it so vehemently. Because it is a slippery slope and any ground you give up - that becomes the new normal.

bduerst 11y ago

That's exactly the point - they're banning behavior, not ideas. They didn't ban all racist or biased communities, just the ones that they saw causing harmful and damaging behavior. Or evading the bans. And before you demand internal information, just imagine the witch hunt that would start if Reddit had released the evidence of such behavior. That would have caused even more harm, even against innocent bystanders. The fact that they selectively banned communities based on their behavior and not their ideas proves they are for free speech, but it's not the "bastion of free speech" that some people interpret it as.

Karunamon 11y ago
..did you miss the part where I said that subreddits who had explicitly not broken any rules were banned?
- bduerst 11y ago
  Nope. I assumed you already knew that you couldn't prove they didn't break the rules when the admins said they did. Unless you think you can prove it without internal information. It was also pretty obvious that they were attaching the imgur staff.
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SolaceQuantum 11y ago

> never harassed anyone Except for that time where they attempted to dox the entirety of the Imgur staff which more or less precipitated their ban?

Excavator 11y ago
Dox? From what I've understood a user got annoyed with them removing images so a collage¹ were created using the pictures from the, now removed, Imgur "meet the team" page². 1: http://www.reaxxion.com/9552/reddit-and-imgur-staff-team-up-to-shut-down-the-fat-people-hate-subreddit http://www.reaxxion.com/9552/reddit-and-imgur-staff-team-up-... 2: http://web.archive.org/web/20150610212104/https://imgur.com/about/team http://web.archive.org/web/20150610212104/https://imgur.com/...

mark_integerdsv 11y ago

...and it will get worse. That is why free speech proponents defend it so vehemently. Because it is a slippery slope and any ground you give up - that becomes the new normal.