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But these are subreddits whose original purpose is to provide content I want to see, so the problem isn't solved.

by wetmore 11y ago

chiph 11y ago
Start your own subreddit for sharing content that you like.
Karunamon 11y ago
Put bluntly, the problem (as much as opinions can be a problem) is of your own creation - you want to impose your standards of behavior and decorum on strangers on the internet. And that's fine, there's a widely-accepted and successful mechanism for doing that: creation of your own community which you can gatekeep as you see fit. If enough people agree with you, perhaps it'll even eclipse the original!
- brazzledazzle 11y ago
  The "default" subreddit issue needs to be resolved first. You shouldn't automatically be enrolled in any subreddit.
  - Karunamon 11y ago
    I'm not sure that's possible. The only other option that comes to mind is asking people what their interests are and subscribing them to those rather than the same set for everyone, but then all you've done is create de-facto, topic-based defaults. You could show people random content, but that's both not PC from a business standpoint and would lead to the outright destruction of smaller communities.
- kaitai 11y ago
  This can just as easily be turned around. Why do people who spout racism get to impose that standard of behavior and decorum on those who want to discuss video? Why does racist or sexist discussion trump relevant content in a content-specific forum? You're right about the problem -- the problem at its root is that some people feel that having no standards that deprecate these off-topic discussions is equivalent to free speech which is equivalent to freedom, while others feel that some standards that keep people "polite" (for lack of a better word) and on-topic are useful to the discussion. You are not necessarily right about who created the problem. Why not say it's the people who want to be racist in the video forum who created the problem? Why don't they create their own community as you suggest? Because part of their desire is to spread their ideas -- they don't actually want to stay on-topic or primarily discuss video, they want to get a rise out of other people. It's engagement in bad faith, really.
  - mreiland 11y ago
    > This can just as easily be turned around. Why do people who spout racism get to impose that standard of behavior and decorum on those who want to discuss video? Why does racist or sexist discussion trump relevant content in a content-specific forum? It can be easily turned around, but it can't be reasonably turned around. It's reasonable to expect someone to simply not participate in a community whose culture they don't agree with. It is NOT reasonable to expect that community to be forced into the behavior that an individual, or a small number of individuals, disagrees with. I can tell you right now I'm a huge fan of vim, but I stopped posting on /r/vim several years ago due to the behavior I saw from some posters there. I don't post much oh /r/programming for much the same reason. Or /r/politics. Your problem is in not understanding that reddit gives you the TOOLS to curate your own experience. It sounds like you haven't been putting much effort into it, and you've, understandably, been inundated with shit. Which is why so many of us DO curate our own experience.
MisterBastahrd 11y ago
The thing about communities is that they don't always do the thing that you want them to. You can always start your own subreddit and fork the community if you want to.

But these are subreddits whose original purpose is to provide content I want to see, so the problem isn't solved.

by wetmore 11y ago

But these are subreddits whose original purpose is to provide content I want to see, so the problem isn't solved.

chiph 11y ago

Start your own subreddit for sharing content that you like.

Karunamon 11y ago

Put bluntly, the problem (as much as opinions can be a problem) is of your own creation - you want to impose your standards of behavior and decorum on strangers on the internet. And that's fine, there's a widely-accepted and successful mechanism for doing that: creation of your own community which you can gatekeep as you see fit. If enough people agree with you, perhaps it'll even eclipse the original!

brazzledazzle 11y ago
The "default" subreddit issue needs to be resolved first. You shouldn't automatically be enrolled in any subreddit.
- Karunamon 11y ago
  I'm not sure that's possible. The only other option that comes to mind is asking people what their interests are and subscribing them to those rather than the same set for everyone, but then all you've done is create de-facto, topic-based defaults. You could show people random content, but that's both not PC from a business standpoint and would lead to the outright destruction of smaller communities.
kaitai 11y ago
This can just as easily be turned around. Why do people who spout racism get to impose that standard of behavior and decorum on those who want to discuss video? Why does racist or sexist discussion trump relevant content in a content-specific forum? You're right about the problem -- the problem at its root is that some people feel that having no standards that deprecate these off-topic discussions is equivalent to free speech which is equivalent to freedom, while others feel that some standards that keep people "polite" (for lack of a better word) and on-topic are useful to the discussion. You are not necessarily right about who created the problem. Why not say it's the people who want to be racist in the video forum who created the problem? Why don't they create their own community as you suggest? Because part of their desire is to spread their ideas -- they don't actually want to stay on-topic or primarily discuss video, they want to get a rise out of other people. It's engagement in bad faith, really.
- mreiland 11y ago
  > This can just as easily be turned around. Why do people who spout racism get to impose that standard of behavior and decorum on those who want to discuss video? Why does racist or sexist discussion trump relevant content in a content-specific forum? It can be easily turned around, but it can't be reasonably turned around. It's reasonable to expect someone to simply not participate in a community whose culture they don't agree with. It is NOT reasonable to expect that community to be forced into the behavior that an individual, or a small number of individuals, disagrees with. I can tell you right now I'm a huge fan of vim, but I stopped posting on /r/vim several years ago due to the behavior I saw from some posters there. I don't post much oh /r/programming for much the same reason. Or /r/politics. Your problem is in not understanding that reddit gives you the TOOLS to curate your own experience. It sounds like you haven't been putting much effort into it, and you've, understandably, been inundated with shit. Which is why so many of us DO curate our own experience.

MisterBastahrd 11y ago

The thing about communities is that they don't always do the thing that you want them to. You can always start your own subreddit and fork the community if you want to.