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> verbal violence Is not a thing, you mean verbal abuse. equating verbal abuse with physical abuse doesn't make your point genuine, what it does is cause thos

> verbal violence Is not a thing, you mean verbal abuse. equating verbal abuse with physical abuse doesn't make your point genuine, what it does is cause those of us who employ critical thinking to disregard your opinions as those of an unreasonable person. Words can be important, but you cannot try to manipulate language in order to alter reality without alienating a lot of people from your cause.

pron 11y ago
> you mean verbal abuse Right. Sorry, English is not my native language. In my native language, verbal abuse is called verbal violence. > what it does is cause those of us who employ critical thinking to disregard your opinions as those of an unreasonable person. It really doesn't.
- mreiland 11y ago
  I'm curious which country you're from. Googling the term pulls up a few the wiki article for verbal abuse, but even that article makes no mention of violence. The closes you can find are a few blog opinion pieces where people are doing exactly what you're doing, attempting to equate verbal abuse with physical violence. I would be interested in learning more. As for your response, you don't get to tell me how I react to people. Blunt, but true.
  - pron 11y ago
    > Googling the term pulls up a few the wiki article for verbal abuse, but even that article makes no mention of violence Well, pull up Google translate and see which languages translate "verbal abuse" as "verbal violence". There are more than one, but I'm sure the process would be very educational. > exactly what you're doing, attempting to equate verbal abuse with physical violence. I never did such thing just as I don't equate murder with theft when I call them both crimes, or 53 with 75 if I call them both positive integers. Equating means putting things on the same level, not in the same category. I'm not even sure I did that. I may have only made an analogy, which is a rhetorical device using comparison to draw attention to specific properties with similar function in different categories in order to assist in understanding or viewing a subject from a certain perspective. > As for your response, you don't get to tell me how I react to people. Blunt, but true. I didn't. Blunt, but true. ---------------------- P.S. Your reaction, however, perhaps ironically, raises a difference between physical and verbal abuse (although, just to make sure -- I've never said there wasn't any), which is people who are victims of physical abuse usually know it, but those who are victims of verbal abuse may not. This opens the door to some very interesting discussions no only on the nature of humiliation (e.g. most people would agree that humiliation causes harm even if the humiliated is not aware of the humiliation if there are spectators), but also on the very core of ethics (and in particular ethical naturalism vs. non-naturalism and phenomenology).
    - mreiland 11y ago
      alright, well you had your chance, but if you can't do something as simple as describe the culture in which they translate as such, then I'm going with my initial reaction. You're unreasonable and not to be trusted on this issue.

pron 11y ago

> you mean verbal abuse Right. Sorry, English is not my native language. In my native language, verbal abuse is called verbal violence. > what it does is cause those of us who employ critical thinking to disregard your opinions as those of an unreasonable person. It really doesn't.

mreiland 11y ago
I'm curious which country you're from. Googling the term pulls up a few the wiki article for verbal abuse, but even that article makes no mention of violence. The closes you can find are a few blog opinion pieces where people are doing exactly what you're doing, attempting to equate verbal abuse with physical violence. I would be interested in learning more. As for your response, you don't get to tell me how I react to people. Blunt, but true.
- pron 11y ago
  > Googling the term pulls up a few the wiki article for verbal abuse, but even that article makes no mention of violence Well, pull up Google translate and see which languages translate "verbal abuse" as "verbal violence". There are more than one, but I'm sure the process would be very educational. > exactly what you're doing, attempting to equate verbal abuse with physical violence. I never did such thing just as I don't equate murder with theft when I call them both crimes, or 53 with 75 if I call them both positive integers. Equating means putting things on the same level, not in the same category. I'm not even sure I did that. I may have only made an analogy, which is a rhetorical device using comparison to draw attention to specific properties with similar function in different categories in order to assist in understanding or viewing a subject from a certain perspective. > As for your response, you don't get to tell me how I react to people. Blunt, but true. I didn't. Blunt, but true. ---------------------- P.S. Your reaction, however, perhaps ironically, raises a difference between physical and verbal abuse (although, just to make sure -- I've never said there wasn't any), which is people who are victims of physical abuse usually know it, but those who are victims of verbal abuse may not. This opens the door to some very interesting discussions no only on the nature of humiliation (e.g. most people would agree that humiliation causes harm even if the humiliated is not aware of the humiliation if there are spectators), but also on the very core of ethics (and in particular ethical naturalism vs. non-naturalism and phenomenology).
  - mreiland 11y ago
    alright, well you had your chance, but if you can't do something as simple as describe the culture in which they translate as such, then I'm going with my initial reaction. You're unreasonable and not to be trusted on this issue.