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At least Drupal 8 is much better about this, by default it doesn't load any JS unless there is actually anything on the page that requires it. And scripts are a

At least Drupal 8 is much better about this, by default it doesn't load any JS unless there is actually anything on the page that requires it. And scripts are added below the main content and not in head. Caching also got much better in Drupal 8 and is enabled by default, which makes a huge difference in speed. You always have to be careful with a CMS, it's very easy to load a lot of unnecessary stuff, but you can still build very fast and lean sites with Drupal with only a bit of knowledge.

at-fates-hands 11y ago
I've been thinking of going back to Drupal for some time now. Thanks for the heads up to take another look at it again.
luxpir 11y ago
I'll throw in my own 2 cents, in agreement. I have tried to use SPDY, Nginx 'microcaching', Drupal caching to make my own Drupal 7 project load as quickly as possible. I still need to make the font and bootstrap calls local (potentially dropping the fancy font for Georgia or Verdana, even Helvetica...) to really bring the load times down further. There are other settings to tweak still, but it's one example of Drupal not dragging its feet too much. It certainly let this 'dev' create a usable piece of software, at least. > https://www.linguaquote.com https://www.linguaquote.com PS - also looking forward to Let's Encrypt and http2 in Nginx.
- mikeytown2 11y ago
  Checkout the AdvAgg module [1] it does async font loading. It was used to speedup the frontend of drupal.org and the results are fairly remarkable [2]. Also if you looking for more ways to speed up drupal checkout my DIY Drupal 7 Performance [3] presentation. [1] https://www.drupal.org/project/advagg/ https://www.drupal.org/project/advagg/ [2] https://www.drupal.org/node/2493801 https://www.drupal.org/node/2493801 [3] https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Vaad5ToVU1lc7zWdN3qN3oFl4FBeeiHqteFyEeXurcs/edit https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Vaad5ToVU1lc7zWdN3qN...
  - luxpir 11y ago
    Thanks for that - have written up most of the performance work I've done and posted to HN[0] - I see from link [2] above that you retested drupal.org and found render times to have doubled since a recent change. It's so easy to undo all that hard work! [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10418732 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10418732

at-fates-hands 11y ago

I've been thinking of going back to Drupal for some time now. Thanks for the heads up to take another look at it again.

luxpir 11y ago

I'll throw in my own 2 cents, in agreement. I have tried to use SPDY, Nginx 'microcaching', Drupal caching to make my own Drupal 7 project load as quickly as possible. I still need to make the font and bootstrap calls local (potentially dropping the fancy font for Georgia or Verdana, even Helvetica...) to really bring the load times down further. There are other settings to tweak still, but it's one example of Drupal not dragging its feet too much. It certainly let this 'dev' create a usable piece of software, at least. > https://www.linguaquote.com https://www.linguaquote.com PS - also looking forward to Let's Encrypt and http2 in Nginx.

mikeytown2 11y ago
Checkout the AdvAgg module [1] it does async font loading. It was used to speedup the frontend of drupal.org and the results are fairly remarkable [2]. Also if you looking for more ways to speed up drupal checkout my DIY Drupal 7 Performance [3] presentation. [1] https://www.drupal.org/project/advagg/ https://www.drupal.org/project/advagg/ [2] https://www.drupal.org/node/2493801 https://www.drupal.org/node/2493801 [3] https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Vaad5ToVU1lc7zWdN3qN3oFl4FBeeiHqteFyEeXurcs/edit https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Vaad5ToVU1lc7zWdN3qN...
- luxpir 11y ago
  Thanks for that - have written up most of the performance work I've done and posted to HN[0] - I see from link [2] above that you retested drupal.org and found render times to have doubled since a recent change. It's so easy to undo all that hard work! [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10418732 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10418732