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the emotional state of a listener is the responsibility of the speaker The desire for consequence-free speech is hypocritical in the extreme, as it requires th

by zorpner 11y ago

the emotional state of a listener is the responsibility of the speaker The desire for consequence-free speech is hypocritical in the extreme, as it requires that others refrain from speech in order that you may suffer no consequences for saying whatever you like. People, on Reddit and elsewhere, are generally free to speak their minds. If their words produce an emotional state in their listeners, should the listeners be required to remain silent in order to avoid potentially causing the speaker to feel a sense of responsibility for their actions?

ikeboy 11y ago
I'm not sure if you realize, but reddit has actually banned this speech. Not doing that would not force the listeners to "be required to remain silent", they could 1. Not go to the subs that have such speech, and only frequent subs that have enforced rules against such speech (of which there are many, and people are free to create their own) 2. If they feel a burning need to go to a sub that has speech they don't like, they're free to respond to that speech (unless that subs bans opposing speech, which is rare), vote on it, etc.
- s73v3r 11y ago
  "Not go to the subs that have such speech" That's not a feasible solution because sooner or later, almost EVERY sub gets infected with that filth.
  - ikeboy 11y ago
    As I mentioned, there are plenty of subs that ban specific types of speech. If you see a banned type of speech on such a sub, you can report it directly to the mods.
  - 15155 11y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope
oldmanjay 11y ago
No, the listeners are very welcome to express themselves, but I still see no possibility of the emotional state of the listener being the responsibility of the speaker.
Karunamon 11y ago
Nobody asked that the listeners remain silent, merely that they: * Respect the right of the speaker to speak * Take responsibility for their own prejudices and mental state If someone on the internet is saying things you (the collective "you") don't like on a social network of any note, you're a button click or two away from never, ever seeing anything that person has to say ever again. The problem is thus solved. ..unless the problem was not that someone was saying things you don't like and wished you didn't have to see that, but that they said something you didn't like and you want to retaliate in some way against the speaker.

by zorpner 11y ago

ikeboy 11y ago

I'm not sure if you realize, but reddit has actually banned this speech. Not doing that would not force the listeners to "be required to remain silent", they could 1. Not go to the subs that have such speech, and only frequent subs that have enforced rules against such speech (of which there are many, and people are free to create their own) 2. If they feel a burning need to go to a sub that has speech they don't like, they're free to respond to that speech (unless that subs bans opposing speech, which is rare), vote on it, etc.

s73v3r 11y ago
"Not go to the subs that have such speech" That's not a feasible solution because sooner or later, almost EVERY sub gets infected with that filth.
- ikeboy 11y ago
  As I mentioned, there are plenty of subs that ban specific types of speech. If you see a banned type of speech on such a sub, you can report it directly to the mods.
- 15155 11y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope

oldmanjay 11y ago

No, the listeners are very welcome to express themselves, but I still see no possibility of the emotional state of the listener being the responsibility of the speaker.

Karunamon 11y ago

Nobody asked that the listeners remain silent, merely that they: * Respect the right of the speaker to speak * Take responsibility for their own prejudices and mental state If someone on the internet is saying things you (the collective "you") don't like on a social network of any note, you're a button click or two away from never, ever seeing anything that person has to say ever again. The problem is thus solved. ..unless the problem was not that someone was saying things you don't like and wished you didn't have to see that, but that they said something you didn't like and you want to retaliate in some way against the speaker.