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Is the US really at fault here, rather than the radical Islamist lunatics running these areas?

eropple 11y ago
The US that put up fake vaccination centers in the pursuit of an already-minimized threat? Why, yes, yes it is. Thank you for asking.
- falsestprophet 11y ago
  "The US that put up fake vaccination centers in the pursuit of an already-minimized threat?" In fairness, they gave out actual vaccines not fake vaccines so it wasn't a "fake vaccination program." I was a real vaccination program that also did a bit of assassination of international terrorists on the side. So, on balance it was a very positive program for the community.
tripzilch 11y ago
Yes. Read the full story of how it went down (recommended; it's a fascinating read): http://www.lrb.co.uk/v37/n10/seymour-m-hersh/the-killing-of-osama-bin-laden http://www.lrb.co.uk/v37/n10/seymour-m-hersh/the-killing-of-... Bottom line is, mistakes were made, and getting your revenge on some old dude is not worth destroying decades of work trying to get a population to trust vaccination programs.
- cbd1984 11y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10349115 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10349115 That article is questionable at best.
  - tripzilch 11y ago
    Um that's a bit of an extremely polarising conclusion to take away from elemenopy's comment. "Questionable at best" tries to imply something entirely different than what was being said, which is that Hersh's claims were bold, not entirely backed up and subject to criticism. "Questionable in part", al right, but extending that to "questionable at best" sounds like you're pushing your own agenda here. Maybe you just worded yourself too strongly, but if you decide to stick with that, please explain to everyone how the claims about what the US did to the vaccination programs in order to get to Bin Laden, made in Hersh's article, are either "questionable" or "worse". Because as far as I've been able to check, Hersh's claims about the actions regarding vaccination programs part of the story (which is just a small part--but the part we are discussing here) are not being criticized by anyone in particular, except by those painting with the very broad brush that the entire story is questionable. Like you are doing.

The US that put up fake vaccination centers in the pursuit of an already-minimized threat? Why, yes, yes it is. Thank you for asking.

falsestprophet 11y ago
"The US that put up fake vaccination centers in the pursuit of an already-minimized threat?" In fairness, they gave out actual vaccines not fake vaccines so it wasn't a "fake vaccination program." I was a real vaccination program that also did a bit of assassination of international terrorists on the side. So, on balance it was a very positive program for the community.

tripzilch 11y ago

Yes. Read the full story of how it went down (recommended; it's a fascinating read): http://www.lrb.co.uk/v37/n10/seymour-m-hersh/the-killing-of-osama-bin-laden http://www.lrb.co.uk/v37/n10/seymour-m-hersh/the-killing-of-... Bottom line is, mistakes were made, and getting your revenge on some old dude is not worth destroying decades of work trying to get a population to trust vaccination programs.

cbd1984 11y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10349115 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10349115 That article is questionable at best.
- tripzilch 11y ago
  Um that's a bit of an extremely polarising conclusion to take away from elemenopy's comment. "Questionable at best" tries to imply something entirely different than what was being said, which is that Hersh's claims were bold, not entirely backed up and subject to criticism. "Questionable in part", al right, but extending that to "questionable at best" sounds like you're pushing your own agenda here. Maybe you just worded yourself too strongly, but if you decide to stick with that, please explain to everyone how the claims about what the US did to the vaccination programs in order to get to Bin Laden, made in Hersh's article, are either "questionable" or "worse". Because as far as I've been able to check, Hersh's claims about the actions regarding vaccination programs part of the story (which is just a small part--but the part we are discussing here) are not being criticized by anyone in particular, except by those painting with the very broad brush that the entire story is questionable. Like you are doing.