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I would guess that most of the anti and pro-vaxers are not scientifically trained, were not involved in the development or testing of these vaccines, probably h

I would guess that most of the anti and pro-vaxers are not scientifically trained, were not involved in the development or testing of these vaccines, probably have not read any of the original reports, don't know what influences could have effected those reports and are basically regurgitating info they saw on TV or the internet. I've heard both sides of the vaccine argument and they both have points.

afarrell 11y ago
This is true of > 95% of any non-obscure public policy debate, is it not?
- wehadfun 11y ago
  Non-scientific issues are understood quite well by those doing the debating. I would guess that a relatively small community truly knows what is going on in vaccinations. Besides "it prevents X", I doubt most doctors could tell you what is in this stuff.
leoc 11y ago
> I've heard both sides of the vaccine argument and they both have points. Would you expand on this?
- wehadfun 11y ago
  Anti-vaccine points: 1. The people who control what vaccines the Government reccomends are "close" to the people that profit from the vaccines. For example Paul Offit, one of the louder pro-vaxies, voted to put a vaccine on the schedule and he had a patent to a similar vaccine. 3 years later he sold his patent for $182 million. 2. The Government has proven that it can be tricked (Volkswagen) and influenced by big money so its easy to not trusts the Governments medical recomendations, and reports. 3. Since 1986 vax manufactuers can not be sued for hurting your kid because of the NCVIA. Since 1986 the amount of vaccines that have been added to the schedule has increased. Anybody over 30 did not have as many or the same vaccines that are recommend for children now. Pro-vax 1. Vaccines have eradicated issues that were deadly in the past 2. Vax works best if we all do it. 3. Yeah vax may hurt you but a seat belt could hurt you too. Still the majority of the time it is safer to where the seat belt. 4. I had vax and I'm fine so my kids can have vax. 5. Yeah the vax can cause problems but so can the diseases they prevent.
  - beagle3 11y ago
    (Pro-vaxxer here:) Another anti-vax point is a variation of the "Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect"[0]. You know that the government policy with respect to some drugs/medicine is completely unscientific - why would you assume they're right about other drugs? [0] http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/65213-briefly-stated-the-gell-mann-amnesia-effect-is-as-follows-you http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/65213-briefly-stated-the-gel...
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- jack9 11y ago
  The government mandating or coercing what is required to be put in people's bodies, is a dangerous precedent. That's kinda important (the only one I care about).

afarrell 11y ago

This is true of > 95% of any non-obscure public policy debate, is it not?

wehadfun 11y ago
Non-scientific issues are understood quite well by those doing the debating. I would guess that a relatively small community truly knows what is going on in vaccinations. Besides "it prevents X", I doubt most doctors could tell you what is in this stuff.

leoc 11y ago

> I've heard both sides of the vaccine argument and they both have points. Would you expand on this?

wehadfun 11y ago
Anti-vaccine points: 1. The people who control what vaccines the Government reccomends are "close" to the people that profit from the vaccines. For example Paul Offit, one of the louder pro-vaxies, voted to put a vaccine on the schedule and he had a patent to a similar vaccine. 3 years later he sold his patent for $182 million. 2. The Government has proven that it can be tricked (Volkswagen) and influenced by big money so its easy to not trusts the Governments medical recomendations, and reports. 3. Since 1986 vax manufactuers can not be sued for hurting your kid because of the NCVIA. Since 1986 the amount of vaccines that have been added to the schedule has increased. Anybody over 30 did not have as many or the same vaccines that are recommend for children now. Pro-vax 1. Vaccines have eradicated issues that were deadly in the past 2. Vax works best if we all do it. 3. Yeah vax may hurt you but a seat belt could hurt you too. Still the majority of the time it is safer to where the seat belt. 4. I had vax and I'm fine so my kids can have vax. 5. Yeah the vax can cause problems but so can the diseases they prevent.
- beagle3 11y ago
  (Pro-vaxxer here:) Another anti-vax point is a variation of the "Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect"[0]. You know that the government policy with respect to some drugs/medicine is completely unscientific - why would you assume they're right about other drugs? [0] http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/65213-briefly-stated-the-gell-mann-amnesia-effect-is-as-follows-you http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/65213-briefly-stated-the-gel...
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jack9 11y ago
The government mandating or coercing what is required to be put in people's bodies, is a dangerous precedent. That's kinda important (the only one I care about).