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Is the "required to seek active consent" actualy a bad outcome? From a customer point of view it seems better than "I assumend you wanted me to do x" regardless

Is the "required to seek active consent" actualy a bad outcome? From a customer point of view it seems better than "I assumend you wanted me to do x" regardless of what x is

Silhouette 11y ago
Think about this from a non-IT point of view. If you went to a store and paid for your groceries with a card, would you expect to go to the checkout, hand over the card, and then have the cashier stop you for thirty seconds while reading a form disclaimer that by paying by card you were consenting to information about the location and amount of your purchase together with your own identity and the details of your card being sent to the operators of the card scheme, who may be based outside Europe, for the purposes of completing the transaction, and only then (assuming you haven't given up in frustration) ask you to put in your PIN to confirm the purchase?
- senjindarashiva 11y ago
  I kind of get your point however I believe that the inconvenience of having to make decisions based on actual information is preferable to implicitly trusting any country or company that the store chooses to use, especially in the IT case where most of the time (if you live in EU) you also have to agree that your information should be handled and protected by a foreign power (which have showned itself to be hostile on several occasions, it's bascily the same as US citizens trusting there personal data to russia) with no legal obligations towards you. The big issue is the fact that we have become accustomed to being relived of both the choice and the information about which choices thats been made for us. Which of course makes us a bit lazy since it's hard to make informed choices which probably is going to make a system like the one you described a hassle to implement but id say it's worth it to bring back at least a small resemblance of choice and control of your own information.

Is the "required to seek active consent" actualy a bad outcome? From a customer point of view it seems better than "I assumend you wanted me to do x" regardless of what x is

Silhouette 11y ago

Think about this from a non-IT point of view. If you went to a store and paid for your groceries with a card, would you expect to go to the checkout, hand over the card, and then have the cashier stop you for thirty seconds while reading a form disclaimer that by paying by card you were consenting to information about the location and amount of your purchase together with your own identity and the details of your card being sent to the operators of the card scheme, who may be based outside Europe, for the purposes of completing the transaction, and only then (assuming you haven't given up in frustration) ask you to put in your PIN to confirm the purchase?

senjindarashiva 11y ago
I kind of get your point however I believe that the inconvenience of having to make decisions based on actual information is preferable to implicitly trusting any country or company that the store chooses to use, especially in the IT case where most of the time (if you live in EU) you also have to agree that your information should be handled and protected by a foreign power (which have showned itself to be hostile on several occasions, it's bascily the same as US citizens trusting there personal data to russia) with no legal obligations towards you. The big issue is the fact that we have become accustomed to being relived of both the choice and the information about which choices thats been made for us. Which of course makes us a bit lazy since it's hard to make informed choices which probably is going to make a system like the one you described a hassle to implement but id say it's worth it to bring back at least a small resemblance of choice and control of your own information.