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I am missing the part where this is a victory against U.S. surveillance. Why would U.S. surveillance care where the data sits? In fact it'd be much easier to ha
by DanielBMarkham 11y ago
I am missing the part where this is a victory against U.S. surveillance. Why would U.S. surveillance care where the data sits? In fact it'd be much easier to have the allies pick up the data in their home country -- plus there are less complications. Hell, I'd call it a win.
Yep, it's a hit on operations for large companies. But it's not the end of the world. Lots of cash and severe growth mode means they'll just use lawyers to stall while they do some major re-architecture work over the next few years. Not a disaster.
The loss is for small/medium U.S. companies -- the kind of companies that go on to be Facebooks. The kind we need to make the economy grow. They're in a hell of a mess. They don't have the cash or momentum to weather the storm, and competitors overseas are now sitting pretty on a more locked-up local market.
As far as I can tell, this article has exactly nothing to do with U.S. surveillance. In fact, the results of the ruling, if anything, could be said to have exactly opposite effects of those promised in the headline. (Geesh, WP)
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- etiam 11y agoBlocks collection through UPSTREAM. Keeps the data otherwise exposed through PRISM out of US jurisdiction. Puts out a statement on high level that the mass surveillance programs violate basic human rights, with economic consequences to drive home the point. ... to mention a few.
- mtgx 11y agoIt's a statement that mass surveillance is illegal and violates European law. It also hurts American companies, which is good, if it ends up making the US government change its stance on mass surveillance due to such economic losses. This also comes right before the TTIP needs to be concluded, and Obama at least cares dearly about passing that agreement with the EU. The NSA did all of this mass surveillance because it thought it's "easy" and there are "no consequences" - so why not? Now it's learning that there are consequences to such spying.