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Uber driving people around will not endanger lives. Drones in class B airspace will.

by wheaties 11y ago

thaumasiotes 11y ago
What's the danger from drones? How do our current aircraft handle birds?
- chronomex 11y ago
  Birds aren't made of plastic and metal and lithium-polymer.
- uberdog 11y ago
  The birds are slaughtered. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/13/nyregion/13geese.html http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/13/nyregion/13geese.html
  - thaumasiotes 11y ago
    That sounds more like a danger to the drone than a danger to the plane.
- detaro 11y ago
  Occasionally, they crash and kill people: http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2012/may/17/deadly-helo-crash-caused-bird/ http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2012/may/17/deadly-...
- mikeyouse 11y ago
  Here's a report from the NTSB about a helicopter flying at normal speed and altitude which hit a red-tailed hawk and resulted in the deaths of 8 people.. so there's that.. http://www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.aviation/brief.aspx?ev_id=20090104X12037&key=1 http://www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.aviation/brief.aspx?ev_id=...
- ianstallings 11y ago
  People keep bring that up, but they actually take great pains to keep birds away from places that airplanes fly, because of the danger. For instance they use falcons to ward off bird packs from airports. Just one of the things they do. But birds are still a danger, we just can't control them. But this? This is controlled by a human. So what is the excuse? Personal freedom? That's not going to cut it with the public.
- poof131 11y ago
  Birdstrikes are incredibly dangerous.[1] Flying drones into class b airspace and ignoring FAA requests to cease should be a criminal matter. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Airways_Flight_1549 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Airways_Flight_1549
- lujim 11y ago
  Sometimes well, sometimes not. Bird strikes are relatively rare, but do happen. I've had two. One tiny guy on the wind screen on landing at about 150mph which caused no damage and one on the nacelle of a jet engine at around 270mph that did cause structural damage. I also own a little DJI phantom "drone" and have no doubt that it could snuff out a turbine engine if it was ingested or cause significant structural damage. Unfortunately the FAA can't go after birds with fines for busting class B airspace, but they can and should nail drone operators. The little copters are really awesome to play with but the FAA needs to start upping the enforcement. You need to be licensed to talk on a ham radio, you should be licensed to fly a drone. Not a full on pilots license, but written tests on airspace every year or two. It would be nice if future drones continuously transmitted the operators credentials on a publicly available frequency.

Uber driving people around will not endanger lives. Drones in class B airspace will.

thaumasiotes 11y ago

What's the danger from drones? How do our current aircraft handle birds?

chronomex 11y ago
Birds aren't made of plastic and metal and lithium-polymer.
uberdog 11y ago
The birds are slaughtered. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/13/nyregion/13geese.html http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/13/nyregion/13geese.html
- thaumasiotes 11y ago
  That sounds more like a danger to the drone than a danger to the plane.
detaro 11y ago
Occasionally, they crash and kill people: http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2012/may/17/deadly-helo-crash-caused-bird/ http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2012/may/17/deadly-...
mikeyouse 11y ago
Here's a report from the NTSB about a helicopter flying at normal speed and altitude which hit a red-tailed hawk and resulted in the deaths of 8 people.. so there's that.. http://www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.aviation/brief.aspx?ev_id=20090104X12037&key=1 http://www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.aviation/brief.aspx?ev_id=...
ianstallings 11y ago
People keep bring that up, but they actually take great pains to keep birds away from places that airplanes fly, because of the danger. For instance they use falcons to ward off bird packs from airports. Just one of the things they do. But birds are still a danger, we just can't control them. But this? This is controlled by a human. So what is the excuse? Personal freedom? That's not going to cut it with the public.
poof131 11y ago
Birdstrikes are incredibly dangerous.[1] Flying drones into class b airspace and ignoring FAA requests to cease should be a criminal matter. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Airways_Flight_1549 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Airways_Flight_1549
lujim 11y ago
Sometimes well, sometimes not. Bird strikes are relatively rare, but do happen. I've had two. One tiny guy on the wind screen on landing at about 150mph which caused no damage and one on the nacelle of a jet engine at around 270mph that did cause structural damage. I also own a little DJI phantom "drone" and have no doubt that it could snuff out a turbine engine if it was ingested or cause significant structural damage. Unfortunately the FAA can't go after birds with fines for busting class B airspace, but they can and should nail drone operators. The little copters are really awesome to play with but the FAA needs to start upping the enforcement. You need to be licensed to talk on a ham radio, you should be licensed to fly a drone. Not a full on pilots license, but written tests on airspace every year or two. It would be nice if future drones continuously transmitted the operators credentials on a publicly available frequency.