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What has to do what you say with the ruling? What has to do the business model with a ruling that states that user data can't be transferred? How is different

by Oletros 11y ago

What has to do what you say with the ruling? What has to do the business model with a ruling that states that user data can't be transferred? How is different iCloud than Google Drive?

tomp 11y ago
The point is that Google will have to adopt much more than Apple. Sure, iCloud and gDrive might be equivalent, but there is no Apple equivalent to e.g. G+ or G-ads.
- Oletros 11y ago
  Apart that Apple has iAds, having more or less services that store user data has nothing to do with having more or less foresight.
- buster 11y ago
  As if there would be a difference in motivation between evil corp#1, evil corp#2 and evil corp#3. You can substitute those names with apple, google, microsoft, facebook, amazon, whatever you like. If you think for one minute that Apple is only a fraction better then their competition you're very misguided by apples great marketing. Honestly, if you think G+ is bad, or Adwords, but the appstore is not (Or iCloud, iwatch, Siri, Amazon Echo, Whatsapp, etc.) you will need to do a reality check. All of those are very privacy intruding and every company will do it's best to make money of your data. And pretty much all of those services is made to collect as much information as possible about you. Use Apple or Google or Facebook and store your private data to be datamined and monetized but please don't fall for marketing speech and all that "don't be evil" bullshit every mega corporation is telling you.
  - tomp 11y ago
    Could you explain to me again, please, how does Apple make money from my data?
    - mcintyre1994 11y ago
      Can we agree that Apple make more money as a result of having "targeting groups" for iAds compared to if they didn't use any targeting? If so, by targeting iAds using data disclosed here: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205223 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205223
      - tomp 11y ago
        Thanks, I didn't know about that. Still, much better than the rest of them, IMO.

by Oletros 11y ago

What has to do what you say with the ruling? What has to do the business model with a ruling that states that user data can't be transferred? How is different iCloud than Google Drive?

tomp 11y ago

The point is that Google will have to adopt much more than Apple. Sure, iCloud and gDrive might be equivalent, but there is no Apple equivalent to e.g. G+ or G-ads.

Oletros 11y ago
Apart that Apple has iAds, having more or less services that store user data has nothing to do with having more or less foresight.
buster 11y ago
As if there would be a difference in motivation between evil corp#1, evil corp#2 and evil corp#3. You can substitute those names with apple, google, microsoft, facebook, amazon, whatever you like. If you think for one minute that Apple is only a fraction better then their competition you're very misguided by apples great marketing. Honestly, if you think G+ is bad, or Adwords, but the appstore is not (Or iCloud, iwatch, Siri, Amazon Echo, Whatsapp, etc.) you will need to do a reality check. All of those are very privacy intruding and every company will do it's best to make money of your data. And pretty much all of those services is made to collect as much information as possible about you. Use Apple or Google or Facebook and store your private data to be datamined and monetized but please don't fall for marketing speech and all that "don't be evil" bullshit every mega corporation is telling you.
- tomp 11y ago
  Could you explain to me again, please, how does Apple make money from my data?
  - mcintyre1994 11y ago
    Can we agree that Apple make more money as a result of having "targeting groups" for iAds compared to if they didn't use any targeting? If so, by targeting iAds using data disclosed here: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205223 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205223
    - tomp 11y ago
      Thanks, I didn't know about that. Still, much better than the rest of them, IMO.