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Meteor Galaxy, a cloud platform for Meteor applications
- ayushgta 11y ago404 @ https://www.meteor.com/why-meter/pricing https://www.meteor.com/why-meter/pricing from the article
- chrisquinnr 11y agoI can't decide what to think about this pricing. Would a company pay $6k a year to almost not worry about hosting / ops? Actually, yeah, probably. Still seems like it's missing a lower tier though.
- lojack 11y agoPricing page says that subscriptions for individuals is coming soon.
- Bjorkbat 11y agoYeah, I'm so used to the pricing tiers used by Digital Ocean, Amazon, and Google Apps that I'm looking at this and going "Wait, the $995 a month tier isn't for enterprise?" Everyone else is almost in a sort of pricing war, so it really feels very much against the current.
- M4v3R 11y agoFTA: "every developer can use Galaxy free of charge for simple apps, or purchase smaller plans for projects that aren't a fit for a full commercial plan"
- sozerberk 11y ago"What about a free option? We've always offered free hosting to every Meteor developer through our meteor deploy feature. It's never going away. Now that we've had a chance to shake out key parts of Galaxy's technology stack with large production apps, we're ready to transition that free meteor deploy service to Galaxy. We've already started on that work, so that every developer can use Galaxy free of charge for simple apps, or purchase smaller plans for projects that aren't a fit for a full commercial plan." So yeah, little specs plans are coming too.
- lacker 11y agoThe difference is, Meteor won't have the volume of Digital Ocean or AWS, so they can't run on low margins. They need a high-margin pricing model in order to survive. The danger here is that high-margin pricing provides a high incentive for the largest customers to move to AWS, so they'll have to be sure to provide enough value to keep the big folks.
- chm 11y agoI think the difference in number of users is partly due to the asking price. I wouldn't use DO if they charged 50$ a month for a VPS to use for mocking up apps. For my use case, 5$-10$ a month is the most I want to pay in such early stages of development. 500$ a month is cheap when you have revenues. But when bootstrapping an app, it's simply out of the question.
- wasd 11y agoBased on the press release, I was expecting a Heroku like full stack service. Was surprised to learn you need to setup the DB from FAQ. > Does Galaxy include a database? > Galaxy does not provide the database layer. You can run your own MongoDB server inside AWS, or create a database through any number of MongoDB hosting providers. https://www.meteor.com/why-meteor/galaxy-faq https://www.meteor.com/why-meteor/galaxy-faq
- zubairq 11y agoYes, I agree. I was expecting something to just work and provide everything
- sergiotapia 11y agoThis is a bummer for me. My meteor apps are large enough to not want to host on free `meteor deploy`, but small enough to not warrant a $500/month plan. Where's the $40/month plan? The $100/month? Also the fact that it doesn't come with the database is off putting. I was under the impression all these months that Galaxy would be a one-stop-shop for Meteor hosting. Bummer, total bummer. I hope they come out with more middle ground pricing.
- hanley 11y agoBummer here as well. And thanks for the tip about not including a database. I'm surprised they didn't mention that in the article! Seems misleading. Since the original free deploy does include the database and they didn't mention it not being included in the article I simply assumed it was included in Galaxy.
- faceyspacey 11y agoIt barely matters. Compose.io's mongo db service is also in aws east. It's simply a matter of pasting the mongo connection url they provide. The scalability they provide would be a waste of MDG's resources to build themselves. Perhaps they could automatically integrate with compose.io, but other than that its identical to what MDG could ever provide. So unless ur bummed about costs again (i.e. the Compose.io costs on top of Galaxy's costs), U pretty much have everything u need now. It seems soon they will provide a cheaper account.
- maerF0x0 11y ago+1 also MMS does all this for you. https://www.mongodb.com/cloud/ https://www.mongodb.com/cloud/
- rvanmil 11y agoIt says "Subscriptions for individuals are coming soon." on the pricing site. https://www.meteor.com/why-meteor/pricing https://www.meteor.com/why-meteor/pricing
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- xbryanx 11y agoIt looks like they are purposefully ceding the small-fry market to Modulus[1] and maybe even Digital Ocean[2]. Part of what you're buying here is access to the Meteor team and best practices at scale. From what I've heard that's something it's harder to get from Modulus. [1] - https://modulus.io/ https://modulus.io/ [2] - https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-deploy-a-meteor-js-application-on-ubuntu-14-04-with-nginx https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-depl... edit: spelling
- throwawaymsft 11y agoAgreed. Just FYI, you probably mean "ceding the small-fry market" (i.e. concede).
- xbryanx 11y agoDerp...I do. Typing to fast. Thanks.
- mortenjorck 11y agoYep, this should be the top comment. The disappointment others have voiced about a lack of indie price tiers is understandable, but it all makes sense if you look at this as preemptively attacking the top end of the market. It's an ambitious play - if they fail to attract enough big clients they're going to have to go down-market into something more crowded, but if they succeed, they have the opportunity to create a powerful feedback loop between Meteor's profile and Galaxy's success.
- JPKab 11y agoif you're going to mention these, you should also mention scalingo. For setting up Meteor, they're my go to, because oplog tailing is set up by default.
- yannski 11y agoYep https://scalingo.com/meteorjs-hosting https://scalingo.com/meteorjs-hosting
- ymn_ayk 11y agoIt works only in the AWS us-east cloud, what about Eu?
- maerF0x0 11y agoThis. So many clients refuse to host their data in the US because of the gov't .
- nostrademons 11y agoCurious - are AWS's EU clusters subject to EU laws, or US ones? I would've thought that as a US corporation, they'd be subject to both. If the US government has a warrant to snoop on Amazon's customers, it doesn't seem like Amazon has much choice (as a US corporation) but to comply.
- maerF0x0 11y agoUnclear, but our EU customer was satisfied by using the EU servers.
- ShakataGaNai 11y agoCurrently the US-of-A believes that US laws _always_ apply, no matter where. However that doesn't jive well with EU privacy laws. For example the easiest way to comply with the German privacy laws ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundesdatenschutzgesetz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundesdatenschutzgesetz ) is to host inside of Germany itself (See also: AWS eu-central-1). Microsoft has been busily fighting this notion ( http://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2015/04/09/our-legal-challenge-to-a-us-government-search-warrant/ http://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2015/04/09/our-lega... ) for a while now. Basically all the tech companies are waiting to find out what happens ( http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/08/us/politics/apple-and-other-tech-companies-tangle-with-us-over-access-to-data.html http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/08/us/politics/apple-and-othe... ) because it means the difference between "US Law applies everywhere" and "US companies can comply with foreign data protection laws". Unfortunately these two things are mutually exclusive.
- yjgyhj 11y agoOn a slightly unrelated note: Would it be possible to make a webapp like Meteor in Clojure pretty easily, using CSP go-style channels ang go-threads. I imagine a function would "broadcast" or "listen to" websocket connections. If the app uses channels for communicating between different go-blocks, server/client contact could use an identical interface. Sending things server-side would be no different than sending things client-side. Could also be a simple 2-function library.
- btown 11y agoHuh. You'd need a closurescript wrapper around MiniMongo which is the in memory mongo database that powers Meteor's isomorphic code. But in theory very doable.
- zubairq 11y agoYep. In Coils it has a frontend database cache like MiniMongo
- 147 11y agoSente is a good library that allows you to do something like this: https://github.com/ptaoussanis/sente https://github.com/ptaoussanis/sente You would have to do the database code yourself, however.
- raspasov 11y agoYes, it's definitely possible, I've personally done that many times and we do that at my current company as well. It ends up being a few hundred lines of code, and you have pretty much full understanding of what's going on and you can fit the code to your needs.
- zubairq 11y agoAlso this: https://github.com/zubairq/coils https://github.com/zubairq/coils
- ldonley 11y agoYou missed out on calling this meteor belt.
- akshatpradhan 11y agoI want to learn more about Galaxy's security hygiene. I also want to learn more about what reasonable steps Galaxy is taking right now to ensure our data is safe after we `meteor deploy`. Are they compliant with any security accountability programs like FEDRAMP/FISMA, ISO 27002, PCI-DSS and HIPAA?
- 1qaz2wsx3edc 11y agoYou might be interested in seeing the efforts on `clinical track`: https://clinical.meteor.com/ https://clinical.meteor.com/ for HIPAA
- hit8run 11y agoWhy on earth is it so expensive? Is meteor so resource hungry?