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A policy of tolerance and respect does not require being tolerant and respectful of intolerance and disrepect.

by zyxley 11y ago

Grue3 11y ago
And so, the vicious circle continues. Did you not notice how the policy of replacing messages with farts is not limited solely to intolerant and disrespectful ones? It's exactly the kind of passive aggression that is typical amongst nerds, and the kind she was seemingly railing against in the beginning of the rant.
- chris_wot 11y ago
  If someone threatens to rape or kill her (which seems to happens to pretty much every woman who works in tech who speaks out against sexism) then fart noises is mild.
  - Grue3 11y ago
    Do you seriously suggest this as a reasonable reaction, rather than, say, reporting it to the police?
    - chris_wot 11y ago
      If the police could take action to locate the one making the threats, then reporting them is a reasonable option. But here's a thought: if you saw graffiti on a wall you owned, then you could report it police AND paint over the top of it with a fresh coat of paint. Let's say you are a Jew, and the graffiti was spewing Neo-Nazi propaganda, targeted at you. You would be justified, because the wall is your property, to mock the perpetrators on your newly repainted wall. It's your wall - and you are free to express yourself on your own property. Sarah's "wall" is similarly her blog post. You can make offensive remarks, but she is free to remove your offensive remarks and mock you in their place. And at the same time collect evidence of threatening behaviour and report it to the police. Not sure why this is such a difficult concept...
- zyxley 11y ago
  > Did you not notice how the policy of replacing messages with farts is not limited solely to intolerant and disrespectful ones? Why do you presume that the author is going to take that action with any messages that aren't intolerant or disrespectful?
  - Grue3 11y ago
    Because she has likely borrowed that policy from Matthew Garret [1], who specifically used it against comments he disagreed with. Seeing as they were both involved in the same community, and both used it for "parting shots" purposes, I think a coincidence is really unlikely. [1] http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/32778.html http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/32778.html

A policy of tolerance and respect does not require being tolerant and respectful of intolerance and disrepect.

by zyxley 11y ago

A policy of tolerance and respect does not require being tolerant and respectful of intolerance and disrepect.

Grue3 11y ago

And so, the vicious circle continues. Did you not notice how the policy of replacing messages with farts is not limited solely to intolerant and disrespectful ones? It's exactly the kind of passive aggression that is typical amongst nerds, and the kind she was seemingly railing against in the beginning of the rant.

chris_wot 11y ago
If someone threatens to rape or kill her (which seems to happens to pretty much every woman who works in tech who speaks out against sexism) then fart noises is mild.
- Grue3 11y ago
  Do you seriously suggest this as a reasonable reaction, rather than, say, reporting it to the police?
  - chris_wot 11y ago
    If the police could take action to locate the one making the threats, then reporting them is a reasonable option. But here's a thought: if you saw graffiti on a wall you owned, then you could report it police AND paint over the top of it with a fresh coat of paint. Let's say you are a Jew, and the graffiti was spewing Neo-Nazi propaganda, targeted at you. You would be justified, because the wall is your property, to mock the perpetrators on your newly repainted wall. It's your wall - and you are free to express yourself on your own property. Sarah's "wall" is similarly her blog post. You can make offensive remarks, but she is free to remove your offensive remarks and mock you in their place. And at the same time collect evidence of threatening behaviour and report it to the police. Not sure why this is such a difficult concept...
zyxley 11y ago
> Did you not notice how the policy of replacing messages with farts is not limited solely to intolerant and disrespectful ones? Why do you presume that the author is going to take that action with any messages that aren't intolerant or disrespectful?
- Grue3 11y ago
  Because she has likely borrowed that policy from Matthew Garret [1], who specifically used it against comments he disagreed with. Seeing as they were both involved in the same community, and both used it for "parting shots" purposes, I think a coincidence is really unlikely. [1] http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/32778.html http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/32778.html