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Isn't the low fuel consumption + low diesel price the biggest point to buy a diesel fueled car?

by tdkl 11y ago

gambiting 11y ago
In UK diesel was always more expensive. Not long ago I was paying £1.30/litre when Petrol was £1.10/litre(£1.30/litre is $7.5/US gallon for US readers). It's only very recently that the two fuels are nearly at the same price everywhere.
- DanBC 11y ago
  We have pretty good numbers for costs of diesel vs petrol. https://www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-sets/oil-and-petroleum-products-weekly-statistics https://www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-sets/oil-and-... Diesel has always been more expensive, but there have been a few times (2007) where the prices got close. And that's just the cost of the fuel from the pump - it doesn't take into account MPG of the car or duty benefits for diesel car ownership.
  - redcalx 11y ago
    > MPG of the car Also not that diesel is more energy dense per unit volume. (And a US gallon is different to an imperial/British one)
- mseidl 11y ago
  In Germany near me, it's roughly 20 cents a liter cheaper.(euro cents)
- Theodores 11y ago
  Ye of short memory! In the 1980's and the early 90's diesel was definitely cheaper. Also in the late 1970's although back then you had to fill up standing in the rain at some special pump used by lorries. We also had lead in petrol back then - nice! I can only recall this anecdotally, a friend's mum ran a diesel car and my mum explained why they had such a noisy thing. You could suffer from tinnitus for hours after getting out of what I believe was an early square shaped Golf (with diesel engine). Diesels back then had no clever electronics or fancy injection so it was a dirty fuel.
  - gambiting 11y ago
    >> Diesels back then had no clever electronics or fancy injection so it was a dirty fuel You will find plenty of people who will say they were the best diesels, because they would burn literally anything, you could put used oil from your frying pan in it and it would happily burn it without any problem. They were uncomplicated chunks of metal, so it's quite common for them to do a million miles without any significant problems. Of course they were dirty as hell, so it's a good thing we don't use cars like that anymore. The only legitimate use I can think of is people who go in off roaders to Africa or deep parts of siberia, where the fuel quality is absolutely horrible, so you can't have a modern diesel with a high pressure direct injection system - one spec of dirt in your fuel and your injectors get clogged.

Isn't the low fuel consumption + low diesel price the biggest point to buy a diesel fueled car?

by tdkl 11y ago

Isn't the low fuel consumption + low diesel price the biggest point to buy a diesel fueled car?

In UK diesel was always more expensive. Not long ago I was paying £1.30/litre when Petrol was £1.10/litre(£1.30/litre is $7.5/US gallon for US readers). It's only very recently that the two fuels are nearly at the same price everywhere.

DanBC 11y ago
We have pretty good numbers for costs of diesel vs petrol. https://www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-sets/oil-and-petroleum-products-weekly-statistics https://www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-sets/oil-and-... Diesel has always been more expensive, but there have been a few times (2007) where the prices got close. And that's just the cost of the fuel from the pump - it doesn't take into account MPG of the car or duty benefits for diesel car ownership.
- redcalx 11y ago
  > MPG of the car Also not that diesel is more energy dense per unit volume. (And a US gallon is different to an imperial/British one)
mseidl 11y ago
In Germany near me, it's roughly 20 cents a liter cheaper.(euro cents)
Theodores 11y ago
Ye of short memory! In the 1980's and the early 90's diesel was definitely cheaper. Also in the late 1970's although back then you had to fill up standing in the rain at some special pump used by lorries. We also had lead in petrol back then - nice! I can only recall this anecdotally, a friend's mum ran a diesel car and my mum explained why they had such a noisy thing. You could suffer from tinnitus for hours after getting out of what I believe was an early square shaped Golf (with diesel engine). Diesels back then had no clever electronics or fancy injection so it was a dirty fuel.
- gambiting 11y ago
  >> Diesels back then had no clever electronics or fancy injection so it was a dirty fuel You will find plenty of people who will say they were the best diesels, because they would burn literally anything, you could put used oil from your frying pan in it and it would happily burn it without any problem. They were uncomplicated chunks of metal, so it's quite common for them to do a million miles without any significant problems. Of course they were dirty as hell, so it's a good thing we don't use cars like that anymore. The only legitimate use I can think of is people who go in off roaders to Africa or deep parts of siberia, where the fuel quality is absolutely horrible, so you can't have a modern diesel with a high pressure direct injection system - one spec of dirt in your fuel and your injectors get clogged.