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Yeah. Nobody with the means to do otherwise wants to live in Russia. And, even if they have extra-ordinarily high means and comfortable life-style (a side-effe

by mildbow 11y ago

Yeah. Nobody with the means to do otherwise wants to live in Russia. And, even if they have extra-ordinarily high means and comfortable life-style (a side-effect of having lots of power in most societies) their children probably want to leave/don't fit in. Why? There are atleast 2 reasons: 1) Russia might not have the sort of opportunities(life/career/amenities) they are looking for. For the really rich, most of them are probably grew up in Switzerland/US more than Russia. 2) Being seduced by mainstream media which is very west-centric. You comment sounds harsh because very few people on HN have the same perspective as some of us. Namely, the outlook people who grew up in a "broken" country have.

guard-of-terra 11y ago
People who don't have means to do otherwise, don't want to live in Russia too, they just haven't got much choice. It doesn't take much means, btw. People leave all the time, ordinary people like me and you (don't know about you, but assuming). Not just software developers. As far as I know Russians integrate OK in civilized countries. Many people are just passive. Doesn't mean they want what they have. There are more reasons: 3) Nobody knows where country is going. 4) No rule of law. No respect for human rights. No democracy. 5) Pretty much everybody is irritated and hates everybody else. 6) Country doesn't produce much of anything other than oil, gas, raw minerals and weapons. Plus some inferior things for internal consumption that are not going to sell on open market. Downturn in raw mineral sales? We starve and freeze. 7) Climate is awful most of the year and also costly to live in. Unlike scandinavians, did not figure out how to live happily in it. 8) Ethnic violence is kind of expected too. I could name ten more if you wish.
- mildbow 11y ago
  > Many people are just passive. Doesn't mean they want what they have. Definitely worth repeating. Probably causes at least #5 and #8.

by mildbow 11y ago

guard-of-terra 11y ago

People who don't have means to do otherwise, don't want to live in Russia too, they just haven't got much choice. It doesn't take much means, btw. People leave all the time, ordinary people like me and you (don't know about you, but assuming). Not just software developers. As far as I know Russians integrate OK in civilized countries. Many people are just passive. Doesn't mean they want what they have. There are more reasons: 3) Nobody knows where country is going. 4) No rule of law. No respect for human rights. No democracy. 5) Pretty much everybody is irritated and hates everybody else. 6) Country doesn't produce much of anything other than oil, gas, raw minerals and weapons. Plus some inferior things for internal consumption that are not going to sell on open market. Downturn in raw mineral sales? We starve and freeze. 7) Climate is awful most of the year and also costly to live in. Unlike scandinavians, did not figure out how to live happily in it. 8) Ethnic violence is kind of expected too. I could name ten more if you wish.

mildbow 11y ago
> Many people are just passive. Doesn't mean they want what they have. Definitely worth repeating. Probably causes at least #5 and #8.