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I know you are specifically talking about web fonts but let's face it: a lot of the modern web sucks ass. I don't want my browser downloading custom fonts, aut

I know you are specifically talking about web fonts but let's face it: a lot of the modern web sucks ass. I don't want my browser downloading custom fonts, autoplay videos, animated GIFs, or CSS elements that move around on their own (or refuse to move when I scroll). I am also not interested having my browser download javascript or tracking cookies from dozens of third party domains when I visit a site.

gopowerranger 11y ago
Your complaint is about design and how the site serves the page, not web fonts. Knowledgeable developers know how to deliver web fonts quickly and web fonts that looks good on your system. Unless you're paying by the byte, what gets downloaded shouldn't concern you from a well-developed site that doesn't hang on your phone. Unfortunately, in this copy/paste era, too many sites shoot themselves in the foot.
- arbitrage 11y ago
  You, or anyone, don't get to tell people what concerns them. If they care about it, it's a concern. The cause of the concern should then be addressed, not the person having the concern.
  - gopowerranger 11y ago
    People are "concerned" about a lot of crazy things that shouldn't bother them.
    - narrowrail 11y ago
      This is good to have someone that defends these modern practices. My problem concerns NPR (i.e. npr.org) and their direction for the use of Drupal with a specific config for the sites for their local affiliates that often requires Google js for the site to function properly. Practically speaking, this will not impact most visitors, but most of these people are being pigeonholed without knowing it for advertising purposes. I have a big problem with this. It is now affecting non-technical people b/c of the use of (ad)blockers on iOS.
- task_queue 11y ago
  I have to wait for it to load, view it and charge my battery later. I don't get that time back. It concerns me.
  - gopowerranger 11y ago
    You, too, are complaining about what the developer did and how he did it, not the web font. I use web fonts almost everywhere and our pages "blink" on.
    - task_queue 11y ago
      You're overlooking the "view it" part. I don't want to see your web font in the first place.
- josteink 11y ago
  > Knowledgeable developers know how to deliver web fonts quickly and web fonts that looks good on your system. 1. most developers aren't good, or at least not paid well enough to do what they consider a good job. 2. you cannot deliver web-fonts taster than you can deliver a page without web-fonts. Web-fonts will always be driving latency. On average in a noticably annoying way more often than not. Besides... Downloading a 1MB font to render some typical 4kb of text? What sort of madness drives this behaviour? I can definitely see the potential for a web-fonts blocker extension, like I now have ad-blocker and in the past had a flash-blocker (which now no longer seems needed).
  - gopowerranger 11y ago
    Again, your complaint is with developers and designers who did not do their job properly, not with web fonts.

gopowerranger 11y ago

Your complaint is about design and how the site serves the page, not web fonts. Knowledgeable developers know how to deliver web fonts quickly and web fonts that looks good on your system. Unless you're paying by the byte, what gets downloaded shouldn't concern you from a well-developed site that doesn't hang on your phone. Unfortunately, in this copy/paste era, too many sites shoot themselves in the foot.

arbitrage 11y ago
You, or anyone, don't get to tell people what concerns them. If they care about it, it's a concern. The cause of the concern should then be addressed, not the person having the concern.
- gopowerranger 11y ago
  People are "concerned" about a lot of crazy things that shouldn't bother them.
  - narrowrail 11y ago
    This is good to have someone that defends these modern practices. My problem concerns NPR (i.e. npr.org) and their direction for the use of Drupal with a specific config for the sites for their local affiliates that often requires Google js for the site to function properly. Practically speaking, this will not impact most visitors, but most of these people are being pigeonholed without knowing it for advertising purposes. I have a big problem with this. It is now affecting non-technical people b/c of the use of (ad)blockers on iOS.
task_queue 11y ago
I have to wait for it to load, view it and charge my battery later. I don't get that time back. It concerns me.
- gopowerranger 11y ago
  You, too, are complaining about what the developer did and how he did it, not the web font. I use web fonts almost everywhere and our pages "blink" on.
  - task_queue 11y ago
    You're overlooking the "view it" part. I don't want to see your web font in the first place.
josteink 11y ago
> Knowledgeable developers know how to deliver web fonts quickly and web fonts that looks good on your system. 1. most developers aren't good, or at least not paid well enough to do what they consider a good job. 2. you cannot deliver web-fonts taster than you can deliver a page without web-fonts. Web-fonts will always be driving latency. On average in a noticably annoying way more often than not. Besides... Downloading a 1MB font to render some typical 4kb of text? What sort of madness drives this behaviour? I can definitely see the potential for a web-fonts blocker extension, like I now have ad-blocker and in the past had a flash-blocker (which now no longer seems needed).
- gopowerranger 11y ago
  Again, your complaint is with developers and designers who did not do their job properly, not with web fonts.