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Millions of people suffer from diabetes type 2 who didn't eat too much. Over-eating and weight gain are major factor, but so are genetics and other conditions.

by objclxt 11y ago

Millions of people suffer from diabetes type 2 who didn't eat too much. Over-eating and weight gain are major factor, but so are genetics and other conditions. By your logic we should stop funding HIV/AIDS research as well, spending hundreds of billions of dollars each year taking care of people who didn't use protection, at the expense of people who try to be responsible.

linkydinkandyou 11y ago
No, my logic would not extend to people with HIV/AIDS. Why? Because the majority of people with Type II Diabetes (not all) could cure themselves just by eating less! Instead they put a burden on our health care system so they can maintain their habit. A person living with HIV/AIDS doesn't have the ability to cure himself with a no-cost option. There's a huge difference there.
- DanBC 11y ago
  > Because the majority of people with Type II Diabetes (not all) could cure themselves just by eating less! Do you have a reliable source for "majority"? http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Diabetes-type2/Pages/Causes.aspx http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Diabetes-type2/Pages/Causes.asp... Only one of these is "eats too much". > age – being over the age of 40 (over 25 for south Asian people) > genetics – having a close relative with the condition (parent, brother or sister) > weight – being overweight or obese > ethnicity – being of south Asian, Chinese, African-Caribbean or black African origin (even if you were born in the UK)
  - linkydinkandyou 11y ago
    From the VERY SOURCE your QUOTED: "Exercising regularly and reducing your body weight by about 5% could reduce your risk of getting diabetes by more than 50%." They list four risk factors, but the BIGGEST risk factor is EATING TOO MUCH.
    - DanBC 11y ago
      You don't understand what "reduce your risk by 50%" means, which is fine because most people make the same mistake. But having a horrible judgemental attitude while making this simple mistake is sub-optimal.
      - scintill76 11y ago
        The original claim also included the word "cure", and according to that site there is no "cure." Diet/exercise only reduce the risk of developing it in the first place.

by objclxt 11y ago

linkydinkandyou 11y ago

No, my logic would not extend to people with HIV/AIDS. Why? Because the majority of people with Type II Diabetes (not all) could cure themselves just by eating less! Instead they put a burden on our health care system so they can maintain their habit. A person living with HIV/AIDS doesn't have the ability to cure himself with a no-cost option. There's a huge difference there.

DanBC 11y ago
> Because the majority of people with Type II Diabetes (not all) could cure themselves just by eating less! Do you have a reliable source for "majority"? http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Diabetes-type2/Pages/Causes.aspx http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Diabetes-type2/Pages/Causes.asp... Only one of these is "eats too much". > age – being over the age of 40 (over 25 for south Asian people) > genetics – having a close relative with the condition (parent, brother or sister) > weight – being overweight or obese > ethnicity – being of south Asian, Chinese, African-Caribbean or black African origin (even if you were born in the UK)
- linkydinkandyou 11y ago
  From the VERY SOURCE your QUOTED: "Exercising regularly and reducing your body weight by about 5% could reduce your risk of getting diabetes by more than 50%." They list four risk factors, but the BIGGEST risk factor is EATING TOO MUCH.
  - DanBC 11y ago
    You don't understand what "reduce your risk by 50%" means, which is fine because most people make the same mistake. But having a horrible judgemental attitude while making this simple mistake is sub-optimal.
    - scintill76 11y ago
      The original claim also included the word "cure", and according to that site there is no "cure." Diet/exercise only reduce the risk of developing it in the first place.