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since this is a techy website, I can tell you the impact the Forum had on me (formerly known as the "Est" training) is it probably healed me of the NIH syndrome

by martin1975 11y ago

since this is a techy website, I can tell you the impact the Forum had on me (formerly known as the "Est" training) is it probably healed me of the NIH syndrome far more than anything else - or I should say, NIBM (Not Invented By Me) syndrome, because I really felt I was God's greatest gift to programming up until that point.... and it was all based off a premise that I had to -prove- this over and over again to everyone I ever encountered, all my peers, all my superiors - to a point I didn't realize was beyond annoying and in more than one instance damaging to me... It showed me the 'grey' area of being an effective, or rather -pragmatic- programmer, who doesn't have a black or white approach to everything. Yes, the solution, when put to the paper (or code rather :), is indeed a binary, black/white kind of ordeal, this is usually the least contentious part of software development and the most is probably working with others...but the approach up to that point is not black/white as nothing is black white when dealing with people. It (the Forum) is definitely not something one would regularly attend unless they start hitting a brick wall and a plateau in their career ... as I did. Since then I'd been promoted and given salary increases regularly - never really had the courage to start a business even though I'm a regular lurker here, or pitch an idea/prototype (yet) to some vc like PG.... but nevertheless, certain aspects of my behavior completely unravelled (for the better) as a result of this 3 day event. Can't say it worked for everyone - but for me, it did wonders. I'm pleased to see some of its blueprints so omnipresent in corporate America - hopefully it humanizes us more.

neuro_imager 11y ago
Thank you for sharing. I'm very skeptical from everything I've read about this organisation. I can't see much evidence that this isn't just a lucrative scam preying on people during vulnerable times in their lives. I'd be interested to hear evidence to the contrary. So far all the "positive benefits" sound as if they could be accounted for by selective attention as well as a self-selected group of very motivated people that attend these conferences (much like most self help).
- martin1975 11y ago
  I went into it thinking it's a scam. It's no more scam than attending dale carnegie, or a Tony Robbins firewalk, or some self professed guru's seminar. If you're just going into it to "check it out", or to prove your point...you won't get anything out of it. It works only if you have an intention around something you might be dealing with ... for me, it was struggling with authority. It is not for everyone.

neuro_imager 11y ago

Thank you for sharing. I'm very skeptical from everything I've read about this organisation. I can't see much evidence that this isn't just a lucrative scam preying on people during vulnerable times in their lives. I'd be interested to hear evidence to the contrary. So far all the "positive benefits" sound as if they could be accounted for by selective attention as well as a self-selected group of very motivated people that attend these conferences (much like most self help).

martin1975 11y ago
I went into it thinking it's a scam. It's no more scam than attending dale carnegie, or a Tony Robbins firewalk, or some self professed guru's seminar. If you're just going into it to "check it out", or to prove your point...you won't get anything out of it. It works only if you have an intention around something you might be dealing with ... for me, it was struggling with authority. It is not for everyone.