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Successful Lisp: How to Understand and Use Common Lisp

80 points by b-man 17y ago

rbanffy 17y ago
The worst thing is that it's entirely possible his contract with the publisher is structured in a way that if he makes the book available as a free download or sells it on Lulu.com, the publisher will unleash their lawyers upon him.
- maddalab 17y ago
  No it isn't. The book has been available since much prior to the notice about royalties being put up. I have a single correspondence with the author about compensating him for his effort (I used the online edition) to learn lisp and he refused -- as the publisher has first rights to collect monies on the book -- , I am inclined not to even fleetingly question his judgment in posting the book online.
  - rbanffy 17y ago
    Well then... A PDF version would make me happier. ;-) OTOH, he could make a second edition and start selling that, if the agreement with the publisher allows. Unless the contract is deliberately convoluted, it shouldn't take more than an lawyer x hour to sort that question out.
    - mahmud 17y ago
      PDF http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2083231/Successful%20Lisp%20How%20to%20Understand%20and%20Use%20Common%20Lisp%20-%20David%20B.%20Lamkins.pdf http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2083231/Successful%20Lisp%20How%20to...
      - rbanffy 17y ago
        Thanks. I had the idea of a more booklike PDF. I wonder if the author would seriously object to that.
julio_the_squid 17y ago
Great, it looks like a good book and a valuable resources. It's a shame about the publishing situation. I've been interested in Lisp and scheme for some time, but haven't found a way to learn it by accomplishing something with Lisp yet. I'm looking forward to finding a project. "Oh, and one more thing: It's not quite true that no mass market product uses Lisp. Microsoft's "Bob" environment for naive computer users was developed (and delivered) in Lisp." Okay, I'm sold! But really, MS was using Lisp in the 90s?
- rbanffy 17y ago
  "Microsoft's "Bob" environment for naive computer users was developed (and delivered) in Lisp" Lisp just lost a hundred geek points with me...
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wildjim 17y ago
Oh man, this is such a shame. I read much of his online book before deciding to buy a paper copy, figuring the result was definitely worth the money, therefore the guy deserved to be paid; this was a few years ago. I don't exactly remember when, so hopefully before 2007...
babyboy808 17y ago
It looks like the publisher's site is offline too: http://www.bookfix.com http://www.bookfix.com

80 points by b-man 17y ago

The worst thing is that it's entirely possible his contract with the publisher is structured in a way that if he makes the book available as a free download or sells it on Lulu.com, the publisher will unleash their lawyers upon him.

maddalab 17y ago
No it isn't. The book has been available since much prior to the notice about royalties being put up. I have a single correspondence with the author about compensating him for his effort (I used the online edition) to learn lisp and he refused -- as the publisher has first rights to collect monies on the book -- , I am inclined not to even fleetingly question his judgment in posting the book online.
- rbanffy 17y ago
  Well then... A PDF version would make me happier. ;-) OTOH, he could make a second edition and start selling that, if the agreement with the publisher allows. Unless the contract is deliberately convoluted, it shouldn't take more than an lawyer x hour to sort that question out.
  - mahmud 17y ago
    PDF http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2083231/Successful%20Lisp%20How%20to%20Understand%20and%20Use%20Common%20Lisp%20-%20David%20B.%20Lamkins.pdf http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2083231/Successful%20Lisp%20How%20to...
    - rbanffy 17y ago
      Thanks. I had the idea of a more booklike PDF. I wonder if the author would seriously object to that.

julio_the_squid 17y ago

Great, it looks like a good book and a valuable resources. It's a shame about the publishing situation. I've been interested in Lisp and scheme for some time, but haven't found a way to learn it by accomplishing something with Lisp yet. I'm looking forward to finding a project. "Oh, and one more thing: It's not quite true that no mass market product uses Lisp. Microsoft's "Bob" environment for naive computer users was developed (and delivered) in Lisp." Okay, I'm sold! But really, MS was using Lisp in the 90s?

rbanffy 17y ago
"Microsoft's "Bob" environment for naive computer users was developed (and delivered) in Lisp" Lisp just lost a hundred geek points with me...
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wildjim 17y ago

Oh man, this is such a shame. I read much of his online book before deciding to buy a paper copy, figuring the result was definitely worth the money, therefore the guy deserved to be paid; this was a few years ago. I don't exactly remember when, so hopefully before 2007...

babyboy808 17y ago

It looks like the publisher's site is offline too: http://www.bookfix.com http://www.bookfix.com