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Notebook designed and manufactured by Wistron Corporation, assembled by Lenovo Group Ltd., and modified by Libiquity LLC. Product contains a combination of new

Notebook designed and manufactured by Wistron Corporation, assembled by Lenovo Group Ltd., and modified by Libiquity LLC. Product contains a combination of new and refurbished parts. So it's a rebadged Thinkpad?

dogma1138 11y ago
Yes, also potentially a lawsuit waiting to happen, not sure whats the legal status when you take something refurb it and then rebrand it.
- monocasa 11y ago
  Nah, it's fine, just not normally a viable business model.
  - dogma1138 11y ago
    Are you sure? law suits over likeness imitations are quite common, this is pretty much removing the stickers and reselling it as a different product. I think the only thing that works for the favor atm, is that it's not in production anymore, if this was still being sold on the market they would get an S&D for sure.
    - rlpb 11y ago
      Normally "law suits over likeness imitations" imply a lost sale by the plaintiff since a customer bought an alternative product after being confused by the likeness. This is the basis for the complaint and damages. This is not the case here. Presumably every refurbished laptop was originally sold by the plaintiff, so there is no lost sale. It is no different from selling second hand goods. See the first sale doctrine.
userbinator 11y ago
A Lenovo Thinkpad X200 is itself a rebadged Wistron Mocha-1, if you want to think of it that way. Despite what companies like HP/Compaq, Gateway, Dell, Lenovo, etc. want you to think, their products are actually mostly just branded by them, and mainly the work of ODMs such as Compal, Inventec, Pegatron, Quanta, and Wistron. Looking on the motherboard often reveals the true name and manufacturer of the product: http://www.laptopschematic.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Mocha-1.jpg http://www.laptopschematic.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Mo... (HannStar is the manufacturer of the actual PCB.)
- buffoon 11y ago
  Most stuff is like this. If you pick up an HP, Casio or TI calculator these days you'll find they are all Kinpo calculators with slightly different firmware.

dogma1138 11y ago

Yes, also potentially a lawsuit waiting to happen, not sure whats the legal status when you take something refurb it and then rebrand it.

monocasa 11y ago
Nah, it's fine, just not normally a viable business model.
- dogma1138 11y ago
  Are you sure? law suits over likeness imitations are quite common, this is pretty much removing the stickers and reselling it as a different product. I think the only thing that works for the favor atm, is that it's not in production anymore, if this was still being sold on the market they would get an S&D for sure.
  - rlpb 11y ago
    Normally "law suits over likeness imitations" imply a lost sale by the plaintiff since a customer bought an alternative product after being confused by the likeness. This is the basis for the complaint and damages. This is not the case here. Presumably every refurbished laptop was originally sold by the plaintiff, so there is no lost sale. It is no different from selling second hand goods. See the first sale doctrine.

userbinator 11y ago

A Lenovo Thinkpad X200 is itself a rebadged Wistron Mocha-1, if you want to think of it that way. Despite what companies like HP/Compaq, Gateway, Dell, Lenovo, etc. want you to think, their products are actually mostly just branded by them, and mainly the work of ODMs such as Compal, Inventec, Pegatron, Quanta, and Wistron. Looking on the motherboard often reveals the true name and manufacturer of the product: http://www.laptopschematic.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Mocha-1.jpg http://www.laptopschematic.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Mo... (HannStar is the manufacturer of the actual PCB.)

buffoon 11y ago
Most stuff is like this. If you pick up an HP, Casio or TI calculator these days you'll find they are all Kinpo calculators with slightly different firmware.