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Alas, the Swiss version of Algol lost out to the New Jersey version :-( Bounds checking and non-nullable references are for wussies, after all. That, and a wo

Alas, the Swiss version of Algol lost out to the New Jersey version :-( Bounds checking and non-nullable references are for wussies, after all. That, and a worse-is-better C compiler is easier to implement and thus more "available". (like Joel Spolsky said "Go ugly early")

jksmith 11y ago
Haha wussy or not, damn did I get a lot of bullet proof shit done with M2. Now I have to work with the modern version of PL1. The more keywords the better the language, right?
- Roboprog 11y ago
  Not sure how to interpret the "more keywords" comment. Words do have the advantage that they force people to put a space around them (usually), though, rather than jamming a bunch of operators together, "C/Unix Hoax" style. for(;P("\n"),R--;P("|"))for(e=C;e--;P("_"+(*u++/8)%2))P("| "+(*u/4)%2); http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/unix-hoax.html http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/unix-hoax.html
thaumasiotes 11y ago
Joel didn't say that. You're probably thinking of this piece by Steve Yegge: http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2007/02/next-big-language.html http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2007/02/next-big-language.ht... But I wouldn't exactly characterize that as advice Steve Yegge wants people to follow, either. > Back when I was in the Navy, just out of boot camp, an otherwise entirely forgettable petty officer first class instructor of ours offered us, unasked and free of charge, his sage advice on how to pick up women at a bar: "Go ugly early." With this declaration, he had made it clear that he and I thought rather differently about certain things in life. > If you want to spare yourself a lot of angst in deciding which programming language to use, then I recommend this simple rule: Go ugly early. C++ will go out with you in a heartbeat. > For my part, I want to encourage people to make their own languages
- Roboprog 11y ago
  Oops. Right. "Worse/ugly is better" was meant as bitter sarcasm, though.

jksmith 11y ago

Haha wussy or not, damn did I get a lot of bullet proof shit done with M2. Now I have to work with the modern version of PL1. The more keywords the better the language, right?

Roboprog 11y ago
Not sure how to interpret the "more keywords" comment. Words do have the advantage that they force people to put a space around them (usually), though, rather than jamming a bunch of operators together, "C/Unix Hoax" style. for(;P("\n"),R--;P("|"))for(e=C;e--;P("_"+(*u++/8)%2))P("| "+(*u/4)%2); http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/unix-hoax.html http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/unix-hoax.html

thaumasiotes 11y ago

Joel didn't say that. You're probably thinking of this piece by Steve Yegge: http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2007/02/next-big-language.html http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2007/02/next-big-language.ht... But I wouldn't exactly characterize that as advice Steve Yegge wants people to follow, either. > Back when I was in the Navy, just out of boot camp, an otherwise entirely forgettable petty officer first class instructor of ours offered us, unasked and free of charge, his sage advice on how to pick up women at a bar: "Go ugly early." With this declaration, he had made it clear that he and I thought rather differently about certain things in life. > If you want to spare yourself a lot of angst in deciding which programming language to use, then I recommend this simple rule: Go ugly early. C++ will go out with you in a heartbeat. > For my part, I want to encourage people to make their own languages

Roboprog 11y ago
Oops. Right. "Worse/ugly is better" was meant as bitter sarcasm, though.