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As a white in tech, I sometimes sense that I'm being discriminated against by Asian / Asian-American hiring managers. For instance, I've never been offered a p
by ap22213 11y ago
As a white in tech, I sometimes sense that I'm being discriminated against by Asian / Asian-American hiring managers. For instance, I've never been offered a position by an Asian, whereas I'm rarely not offered a position by a non-Asian.
What kind of concerns me is that so many of the big tech companies have disproportionately more Asians, and many Asians cultures are known to be as racist or more racist. Unlike Americans, who are trained from youth to be tolerant and accepting, many immigrants are not.
Unfortunately, even with training, most people will still be biased toward hiring people like themselves.
- beachstartup 11y ago> I've never been offered a position by an Asian so... this feels like discrimination, which is understandable. > whereas I'm rarely not offered a position by a non-Asian. ... but does this feel like preferential treatment? because that's the logic you are presenting here. "when i don't get hired, it's because of discrimination. when i do get hired, it's because i'm a good hire, not because someone else was discriminated against to hire me." this is why these discussions are meaningless. there's no way of knowing why you did or didn't get hired. yet another reason to run your own company.
- ap22213 11y agoCertainly a valid point, but I decided against pointing it out, since because of market demands, pretty much anyone with a brain can get a job in tech, currently. That a particularly skilled and experienced candidate was being rejected so frequently either pointed to an innate bias, more selective criteria, or inflexibility in pay. Maybe all three.
- 9872 11y agoYou're still assuming you have a brain. Based on your comments here, there's no reason to believe that's justified.
- ap22213 11y agoDid I write something that was offensive? If I did, please point it out; otherwise, why the ad hominem?
- 9872 11y agoAd hominem would be discrediting your story because you don't have a brain. I'm just amusedly pointing out that the logical conclusion of your story is simply that you don't have one. Offensiveness doesn't come into the picture.
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- Roewaid213 11y agoThis is horribly anecdotal, since asian-american managers actually tend to be less likely to hire other asians, out of fear of looking like they are practicing favoritism toward "their own." And your bias is probably one reason for why they constantly feel so overly self-conscious about that as well
- ap22213 11y agoInteresting perspective. I had no idea that this was a concern. But, I can certainly relate. As someone who is often involved in hiring, I feel a similar pressure. I try very hard to be objective. But, in order to feel comfortable with my decisions, I (hopefully only slightly) err towards over-hiring minorities and women. Not that this presents much difficulty these days - it's hard enough to find qualified (and interested) candidates, in general.