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A really good point noted in this article, and ignored in the comments, is that of the 'bamboo ceiling.' Yes, there are lots of Asians in tech. But they are gen
by huac 11y ago
A really good point noted in this article, and ignored in the comments, is that of the 'bamboo ceiling.' Yes, there are lots of Asians in tech. But they are generally programmers and rarely in managerial positions.
- sonabinu 11y agoagree
- lohengramm 11y agoMaybe because you are considering asians in a foreign country? Surely most managers in China are Chinese. I would not expect to see a completely even ethnic distribution in high positions in any country.
- beachstartup 11y ago> Maybe because you are considering asians in a foreign country? > Surely most managers in China are Chinese oh look, another confused racist who thinks only white people can be real americans. i hadn't seen one of you in a few years, i thought you had all died of old age by now.
- dang 11y agoYou've made more than one personal attack in this thread. I'm sure you know that those are not allowed on HN. We ban accounts that break the guidelines repeatedly. Please post civilly and substantively, or not at all. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- rsy96 11y agoDepends on how one defines Asians. Chinese are rare among the higher ranks in tech, but many corporations have Indians (India is in Asia, right?) as their CEO.
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- eitally 11y agoI dunno. I've worked for a string of Indian managers (directors, VPs, CIOs), and if you look at the highest of the high profile companies now (Microsoft, Google, Oracle... but not Apple or Amazon) they all have Indian leadership.
- GBond 11y agoThe ratio of coder/manager (grunt/boss) in Tech is better than other industries, albeit, still non-proportional to the workforce percentage. I presume a factor to Tech fairing better is that many of the founders are of asian decent.
- ap22213 11y agoAs a white in tech, I sometimes sense that I'm being discriminated against by Asian / Asian-American hiring managers. For instance, I've never been offered a position by an Asian, whereas I'm rarely not offered a position by a non-Asian. What kind of concerns me is that so many of the big tech companies have disproportionately more Asians, and many Asians cultures are known to be as racist or more racist. Unlike Americans, who are trained from youth to be tolerant and accepting, many immigrants are not. Unfortunately, even with training, most people will still be biased toward hiring people like themselves.
- beachstartup 11y ago> I've never been offered a position by an Asian so... this feels like discrimination, which is understandable. > whereas I'm rarely not offered a position by a non-Asian. ... but does this feel like preferential treatment? because that's the logic you are presenting here. "when i don't get hired, it's because of discrimination. when i do get hired, it's because i'm a good hire, not because someone else was discriminated against to hire me." this is why these discussions are meaningless. there's no way of knowing why you did or didn't get hired. yet another reason to run your own company.
- ap22213 11y agoCertainly a valid point, but I decided against pointing it out, since because of market demands, pretty much anyone with a brain can get a job in tech, currently. That a particularly skilled and experienced candidate was being rejected so frequently either pointed to an innate bias, more selective criteria, or inflexibility in pay. Maybe all three.